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Amnesia - New York Times 1998: Bin Laden and Iraq Made a Deal; 2004: No Al Qaeda Iraq Connection
New York Times | November 5, 1998 | BENJAMIN WEISE

Posted on 06/18/2004 9:32:25 AM PDT by tallhappy

Yesterday the NY Slimes blared the headline: Panel Finds No Qaeda-Iraq Tie.

Yet in 1998 the New York Slimes was reporting a different finding. The Clinton administration had just indcted bin laden and as part of the inditment's background had referenced bin Laden and al Qaeda's relationship and agreement to work together on weapon's development. The indictment was from the Clinton Justice department, under Janet Reno's authority and also State Department officials took part in the news conference announcing the indictment.

Here is the Slimes article, Novemeber 8. 1998.

The New York Times

November 5, 1998, Thursday, Late Edition - Final

SECTION: Section A; Page 1; Column 2; Foreign Desk

LENGTH: 1093 words



BODY: A Federal grand jury in Manhattan returned a 238-count indictment yesterday charging the Saudi exile Osama bin Laden in the bombings of two United States Embassies in Africa in August and with conspiring to commit other acts of terrorism against Americans abroad.

Government officials immediately announced that they were offering two rewards of $5 million each for information leading to the arrest or conviction of Mr. bin Laden and another man charged yesterday, Muhammad Atef, who was described as Mr. bin Laden's chief military commander.

Mr. bin Laden is believed to be living in Afghanistan under the protection of the Taliban, the Islamic fundamentalist movement that rules that country.

Mr. Atef's whereabouts are unknown.

It is uncertain whether Mr. bin Laden will ever stand trial in the United States. But if he does, prosecutors said, he could face life in prison or the death penalty if he is convicted. Prosecutors also unsealed an earlier indictment, issued in June, that included similar but less detailed charges against Mr. bin Laden.

That indictment was returned before the embassy bombings and resulted from a two-year grand jury investigation of his activities in Somalia and Saudi Arabia, as well as reports that he had connections to a circle of Islamic militants in Brooklyn.

The new indictment, which supersedes the June action, accuses Mr. bin Laden of leading a vast terrorist conspiracy from 1989 to the present, in which he is said to have been working in concert with governments, including those of Sudan, Iraq and Iran, and terrorist groups to build weapons and attack American military installations. Excerpts, page A8.

But the indictment gives few details of Mr. bin Laden's alleged involvement in the embassy attacks. The indictment does not, for example, specify whether prosecutors have evidence that Mr. bin Laden gave direct orders to those who carried out the attacks.

Nothing in the document indicates why the original indictment was kept secret for months. But the secret charges were returned about the time that American officials were plotting a possible military attack into Afghanistan to arrest Mr. bin Laden.

Mary Jo White, the United States Attorney in Manhattan, said, "It's very common to have sealed indictments when you're trying to apprehend those who are indicted."

Both indictments offer new information about Mr. bin Laden's operations, including one deal he is said to have struck with Iraq to cooperate in the development of weapons in return for Mr. bin Laden's agreeing not to work against that country.

No details were given about whether the alleged deal with Iraq led to the development of actual weapons for Mr. bin Laden's group, which is called Al Qaeda.

The Government said yesterday that Mr. bin Laden's group had made use of private relief groups "as conduits for transmitting funds" for Al Qaeda.

The groups were not identified.

Prosecutors also said Mr. bin Laden's group had conducted internal investigations of its members and their associates, trying to detect who might be acting as informants, and had killed those who had been suspected of collaborating with enemies of the organization.

The Government indicated earlier that its knowledge of Mr. bin Laden's activities stemmed in part from the cooperation of one such informant, who it said yesterday had worked for Mr. bin Laden, transporting weapons to terrorists, helping to buy land for his training camps and assisting in running his finances.

The June indictment against Mr. bin Laden suggested that the Government had a considerable amount of knowledge of his dealings in the months before the attacks on the embassies, one in Tanzania and one in Kenya.

But the new charges are an indication of how quickly the Government has worked to solve the embassy attacks, which occurred just three months ago.

Ms. White said that Mr. bin Laden was charged with "plotting and carrying out the most heinous acts of international terrorism and murder."

Citing the more than 250 people killed in the embassy attacks and the more than 1,000 wounded, she added, "In a greater sense, all of the citizens of the world are also victims whenever and wherever the cruel and cowardly acts of international terrorism strike."

The investigation of Mr. bin Laden is continuing, said Ms. White and Lewis D. Schiliro, assistant director of the F.B.I. in New York, whose agents have fanned out around the world to investigate the embassy attacks.

"Our investigative strategy is clear," Mr. Schiliro said.

"We will identify, locate and prosecute all those responsible, right up the line, from those who constructed and delivered the bombs to those who paid for them and ordered it done."

In charging Mr. Atef, the Government reported new details about what it called his role as Mr. bin Laden's military commander, referring to his "principal responsibility for the training of Al Qaeda members."

Mr. Atef was a member of a committee under Mr. bin Laden that approved all terrorist actions by Al Qaeda, the indictment said, and he also played a major role in coordinating attacks on United States and United Nations troops in Somalia in October 1993.

In those attacks, 18 American soldiers and hundreds of Somalis were killed. Americans were shocked by the images of the body of one of the Americans being dragged through the streets, and the violence provoked a furor over the United States role in Somalia as part of the United Nations effort to pacify the country and supply food and medicine to the Somalis.

At the time, the battle was seen as one with Somali warlords. But yesterday's charges made clear that the Government now contends that Mr. bin Laden had a critical role in instigating the fighting.

In late 1992 and 1993, when Mr. bin Laden's group was based in Sudan, Mr. Atef went to Somalia to determine "how best to cause violence to the United States and United Nations military forces stationed there," and reported back to Mr. bin Laden at his headquarters in Khartoum, Sudan's capital, the indictment said.

Prosecutors said that in the spring of 1993, Mr. Atef and other members of Al Qaeda, including Haroun Fazil and Mohammed Saddiq Odeh, both of whom have been charged in the embassy attacks, traveled to Somalia and trained Somalis opposed to the United Nation's intervention. On Oct. 3 and 4, 1993, in Mogadishu, Somalia's capital, Somali soldiers trained by Al Qaeda took part in the attacks on the soldiers, according to the June 10 indictment that was unsealed yesterday.

GRAPHIC: Photos: Mary Jo White, a United States Attorney, at a news conference yesterday with a portrait of Osama bin Laden, a Saudi exile indicted on charges of conspiracy in the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. (Ruby Washington/The New York Times); Prosecutors say this photo shows Osama bin Laden, left, and Muhammad Atef, who were indicted yesterday on terrorism charges. (United States Attorney's Office)(pg. A8)

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KEYWORDS: 1998; alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; amnesia; binladen; binladeniraq; ignorantmedia; incompetence; iraq; mediabias; medialies; newyorktimes; nyt
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That issue also included excerpts from the indictment itself. The indictment is available in pdf format at
1 posted on 06/18/2004 9:32:28 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Major league PING!

the SLIMES of New York: "Whatever it takes...all the sleaze that is fit to print..."

2 posted on 06/18/2004 9:37:44 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: tallhappy

Er, Jayson Blair wrote all of that. We have no idea what he was talking about.

/NY Times

3 posted on 06/18/2004 9:38:11 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: tallhappy
Thanks for posting this. Am gathering all of these together to send some liberal relatives and friends. Combined with the Putin statement, the Old Media has some explaining to do.
4 posted on 06/18/2004 9:39:08 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: tallhappy

Great find.

5 posted on 06/18/2004 9:41:50 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I stepped in some Chirac the other day and still can't get the stink out of my shoes!)
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To: thoughtomator

NY Times Editorial Fraud investigation department:

6 posted on 06/18/2004 9:42:46 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: tallhappy

wow !!! frickin great job!

7 posted on 06/18/2004 9:43:52 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit (music, music and more music)
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To: tallhappy

WOW - this has to be one of the biggest finds ever!

8 posted on 06/18/2004 9:44:45 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: jimbo123

Ok I forwarded my letter there, thanks for the info

9 posted on 06/18/2004 9:45:18 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I stepped in some Chirac the other day and still can't get the stink out of my shoes!)
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To: tallhappy

BUMP! I just sent this out to my email list.

10 posted on 06/18/2004 9:45:57 AM PDT by ellery (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: tallhappy
This is very funny, too bad it's not a joke.

Then again maybe they're taking themselves down a peg at a time.

Even THEY can't get totally away with this s**t anymore.

Bush and Cheney are now taking them on DIRECTLY. HOORAY!!!

11 posted on 06/18/2004 9:47:16 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Dog; Miss Marple; Peach; Iowa Granny; prairiebreeze; Molly Pitcher; kayak; Neets

Looky here!

12 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:27 AM PDT by lysie (Accumulating FRequent FReeper miles.)
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To: tallhappy

Nice b*tchslap of the Grey Whore. Flaming, lying, Clymers, the lot of them....

13 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:33 AM PDT by eureka! (May karma come back to the presstitutes and Rats in a material way.....)
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To: tallhappy

Oh, that is SOOOOO last century.

14 posted on 06/18/2004 9:49:49 AM PDT by The G Man (*** THIS SPACE FOR RENT ***)
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To: tallhappy


15 posted on 06/18/2004 9:51:20 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: tallhappy

Both headlines are non-contrdictory. Remember that Saddam Hussein, who ruled Iraq in 1998, sits in jail in 2004. The Republic of Iraq today doesn't support terrorism; Saddam Hussein did.

I can only wish that was what the NYT reported

16 posted on 06/18/2004 9:51:49 AM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: tallhappy

9/11 Commission is cover-up Visas that Should Have Been Denied
A look at 9/11 terrorists’ visa applications

17 posted on 06/18/2004 9:52:23 AM PDT by take
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To: tallhappy

Great find, tallhappy!

Bookmarked to my Iraq/AQ connection file.


18 posted on 06/18/2004 9:52:37 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: lysie

Thanks for the ping, lysie! Have added that great find to my Iraq/AQ connection file.

19 posted on 06/18/2004 9:53:13 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: tallhappy; FL_engineer; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Mo1
Thanks for posting this great find.

It is time for Punch and his slime ball editors to do the one honorable thing in their lives!


20 posted on 06/18/2004 9:55:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( J.F.K. STANDS FOR: (JIHAD FOR KERRY!))
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