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Kerry advisers tell hopeful to 'keep cool' on religion
Washington Times ^ | 6/18/04 | Julia Duin

Posted on 06/18/2004 12:32:40 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:16:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Sen. John Kerry's advisers are telling the presidential candidate to steer clear of talking about religion after running afoul of several Catholic bishops and after the campaign's new director of religious outreach was criticized this week for espousing left-wing causes.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; catholiclist; kerry; religiousvote; vanderslice
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1 posted on 06/18/2004 12:32:41 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
But with Miss Vanderslice not being allowed near the press, "They have no one in their communications shop who is conversant in religion," she said.

Satan knows a lot about religion.

2 posted on 06/18/2004 12:41:22 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: kattracks
Flip-Flop should start by not turning going to Sunday mass into a photo-op by "just happening" to leave mass with the local Congressman in an important swing state, like last weekend.
3 posted on 06/18/2004 1:09:21 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't having a Unitarian run your religious outreach as near to being agnostic as you can get?


4 posted on 06/18/2004 1:10:03 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: kattracks

Its simple, stupid. Liberals loathe God-Talk, period.


5 posted on 06/18/2004 1:14:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop; Mr Ramsbotham
[S]he spoke at a rally co-sponsored by the homosexual group AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power (Act-Up)...."

In my opinion, Act-Up was an anti-Catholic hate group. I couldn't believe it when they disrupted mass, hurling the Eucharist to the floor... and the press essentially gave them a pass. Let's pause to think what would happen if a group did such a thing to a liberal church... As far as I remember, this outrage wasn't even mentioned as a "hate crime." I think more press went to covering Bill Clinton's mythical memories of church burnings during his childhood.

Even though she was giving interviews to USA Today earlier this month, Miss Vanderslice would not be talking to the press, said campaign spokeswoman Allison Dobson. "It is extremely unfortunate and regretful that John Kerry's political opponents would attack a person of faith in this way," Ms. Dobson said.

Ms. Dobson should have had a hard time saying that one with a straight face. The Democrats have a cottage industry mocking "people of faith." As for this "faith" that includes violent protests and attacks against those with whom you don't agree... you know, I bet a lot of racists in the 1960s were "people of faith" too. The terrorists of 9/11 were "people of faith" too. Heck, I'm sure even some KKK members sit in a church somewhere on Sunday. Like Ms. Vanderslice, they just believed in using violence the rest of the week...

6 posted on 06/18/2004 2:35:10 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: goldstategop

I believe you are correct!


7 posted on 06/18/2004 5:38:50 AM PDT by kassie
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To: kattracks
But with Miss Vanderslice not being allowed near the press, "They have no one in their communications shop who is conversant in religion," she said.

?

What about the candidate?

8 posted on 06/18/2004 6:18:50 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6

This is hysterical. Can anyone see the humor in all of this.

Kerry's largest voting blocks in the inner cities comes from churches. They are telling him to stay clear of it. basically they are saying that minorities that go to church are too stupid to figure this out and will vote for Kerry anyway.

Now is a great time for the Bush campaign to strike.


9 posted on 06/18/2004 7:30:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (How can you trust a man who will not risk his own Senate seat for a run at the presidency?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Kerry also pushes that fact that he's part Jewish when it's politically expedient (his real surname is Kohn)... What a disgrace... He also pretended to be Irish for the longest time...

Not that I really care what religion he is, I just wish he was forthright about it.

10 posted on 06/18/2004 9:25:00 AM PDT by NYC Republican (How can Americans SERIOUSLY consider voting for an ADMITTED WAR CRIMINAL Scum like SKerry???)
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To: kattracks

James Hitchcock of EWTN News wrote

"How could any layman--especially one who was not a Catholic--be faulted for supporting abortion if the most prominent Catholic priest in public life did the same? Drinan bears heavy responsibility for making the Democratic Party the party of abortion."


11 posted on 06/18/2004 9:41:45 AM PDT by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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To: GraceCoolidge
Let's pause to think what would happen if a group did such a thing to a liberal church

Liberal church? Isn't that an oxymoron (except Mosques and the 1st Universal Holistic Church of Wicca)?

12 posted on 06/18/2004 9:51:25 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: kattracks; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
I was waiting on a fitting thread for this pic.

Jenni Login (R) and Cathy Rex hold signs in front of St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City, June 16, 2004. A group of less then 10 people held a vigil asking Cardinal Edward Egan to withhold giving communion to John Kerry (news - web sites) due to his stand on abortion rights. REUTERS/Jeff Christensen

13 posted on 06/18/2004 9:54:39 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

THE STRANGE POLITICAL CAREER OF FATHER DRINAN

http://www.cathfam.org/polrec/Fr.Drinan1.html


14 posted on 06/18/2004 9:58:40 AM PDT by FrontlinesofFreedom (Pax Americanus)
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To: kattracks
Miss Vanderslice to quit her Jubilee job and go to work for the Howard Dean campaign as its religious outreach coordinator in Iowa.

She got in trouble with Kerry for suggesting he read from the "Old Testament Book" of 2 Corinthians at a gathering of jews. :)

15 posted on 06/18/2004 10:13:11 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt (Proudly wearing the Kilt.)
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To: kattracks

Father Drinan violated his vow of obedience by running for Congress repeatedly in spite of the Pope's clear orders; he flouted Catholic teaching by supporting Clinton's veto of the partial-birth abortion ban; now he tells the world that Holy Communion is a "nonissue" for a Catholic politician.

see:
http://www.cathfam.org/polrec/Fr.Drinan1.html


16 posted on 06/18/2004 10:17:38 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: kattracks

Kerry's best bet is to avoid all issues and public appearences. That way he can avoid making any mistakes. My advice is as follows.

One TV ad. No images just James Earl Jones reading the following message,

"John Kerry, the silent candidate. He will not confuse you with any issues or any platform. Vote for Kerry."


17 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:49 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I will never give up. So don't ask me.)
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To: kattracks
I found this on the net about Fr. Drinan, seems he should have been defrocked years ago.

The Archdiocese of San Antonio and the four Catholic universities in San Antonio have invited Father Robert Drinan, S.J., to be the keynote speaker for a symposium of “faithful citizenship.” This event will be held on February 14, 2004, at St. Mary’s University as part of the Synod’s theme of “Year of Faith Formation and Social Concerns.” (This information was published in the November 28, 2003, issue of Today’s Catholic in a special insert.)

Father Drinan, an attorney-priest, served as a Democratic representative from Massachusetts in Congress from 1971 until 1981, when Pope John Paul II ordered him to choose between politics and the priesthood. Due to his presence in the Congress as a Catholic priest, he probably caused more damage to the pro-life beliefs of Americans than any other person before or after Roe v. Wade. As an elected official he continuously voted for abortion legislation; actively shaming his priestly position and the Church at large.

After years of ignoring requests for him to not run for re-election, Father Drinan finally obeyed his order, his bishops, and the Vatican and left the Congress. However, his pro-choice actions continued. In 1996, he wrote a column supporting President Clinton’s veto on the bill banning partical-birth abortion. After a public outcry by pro-life people, he issued a statement saying he didn’t understand the procedure.

18 posted on 06/18/2004 10:28:59 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

Rush was just talking about this story.


19 posted on 06/18/2004 11:17:11 AM PDT by mware
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


20 posted on 06/18/2004 7:28:40 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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