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Nunn So Brave (Sam Nunn for VP?)
NY Post, Page Six ^ | 16 June, 2004 | Richard Johnson

Posted on 06/16/2004 8:31:22 AM PDT by Servant of the 9

IN the race among Democrats to become John Kerry's running mate, former Sen. Sam Nunn, 65, is ahead by a nose. Sources say the FBI has started combing through records of his business dealings, reviewing files and relationships. No wonder they started early — Nunn, a native of Georgia, serves on the boards of ChevronTexaco, Coca-Cola, Dell, GE, Internet Security Systems and Scientific-Atlanta, in addition to acting as co-chair and CEO of the Nuclear Threat Initiative. A rep for the Kerry campaign said, "We're not commenting on the process."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2004; election; hardhabit2break; kerry; popularattheconvent; samnunn; theirbestchoice; veep; vicepresident; wellkerryiscatholic
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To: Theodore R.

Putting Nunn on the ticket to carry Georgia would be about as effective as Dukakis choosing Bentsen to carry Texas. Didn't wash.


81 posted on 06/16/2004 9:50:28 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Theodore R.

Yeah, I can't fathom that the ticket would be that strong. Replace Kerry with anybody else more electable, and you might be right.


82 posted on 06/16/2004 9:53:06 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Servant of the 9
ources say the FBI has started combing through records of his business dealings

The FBI???

83 posted on 06/16/2004 9:58:00 AM PDT by mastequilla
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To: LI conservative
Richardson failed at the most important assignment he was given by Bill Clinton--finding Monica a job.

If Richardson is picked we'll hear endlessly about how wonderful he is because he is Hispanic and how bold and courageous Kerry is for making the pick (like Gore with the Lieberman selection because he is Jewish)...but as others have speculated on FR, Richardson may have a skeleton or two in his closet that would make him a liability.

84 posted on 06/16/2004 9:59:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: mwl1

I think Richardson was offered it, and turned it down ...he made some very "Sherman-like" statements a few weeks ago..Nunn is smoke, a "maskirova"...to deflect attenton while they try to find someone, anyone who will at least add something to the ticket..


85 posted on 06/16/2004 10:01:06 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: adam_az
You provide an extensive list of negatives for Nunn, including his opposing positions on issues compared to Kerry, but don't forget that Kerry was willing (read begging) to have have McCain on his ticket. McCain has a similar if not more conservative record than Nunn.

Kerry needs someone strong on security issues and a politician. Nunn would be a strong "unity" addition even if he is a Southern conservative Democrat. I want GWB to win. Nunn will make it a little more difficult.

86 posted on 06/16/2004 10:03:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: babaloo
Maybe Kerry is just continuing to float the names of conservatives as a ruse to help him with moderates. McCain until that got put to rest-now Nunn for a few days or weeks. I wonder who is next?

Kerry/Gingrich?
Kerry/DeLay
Kerry/Keyes
Kerry/Forbes

87 posted on 06/16/2004 10:04:42 AM PDT by mastequilla
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To: montag813

I've never gotten the sense that Lieberman cared about his few conservative positions as much as Nunn identified with his southern conservative Democrat image. Lieberman was named because he could solidify Jewish support and win over people with his "morality" that had little bearing on his actual political profile.

The degree of renunciation required of Nunn would negate all of his value to the ticket as a southern pro-defense conservative. I'd be surprised that Kerry would try something this dumb, except that he already did it with McCain.


88 posted on 06/16/2004 10:07:21 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Servant of the 9

Blatant pandering to the South.


89 posted on 06/16/2004 10:13:21 AM PDT by Redbob (we're going to miss you, Ronnie!)
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To: Servant of the 9

Cheap attempt to make easy inroads in the south. The fact remains he would be running with a loser.


90 posted on 06/16/2004 10:17:22 AM PDT by Taquito
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To: Servant of the 9
This could be bad. Nunn is actually competent.

Agreed.

Suggested Campaign Slogan:

Kerry/Nunn - Leaves All Behind.

91 posted on 06/16/2004 10:18:47 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: A2J
Nunn could possibly carve some of the South away from Bush.

I don't think the #2 on the ticket matters as much as the #1. And the #1 reeks for every Southern state.

92 posted on 06/16/2004 10:25:02 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Servant of the 9

Sam Nunn will reveal his true character if he accepts Hanoi John Effing Kerry's bid to become VP!

We already know Kerry is a sleazball scumbag LIEberal. And the names being bandied around to run with him are likewise sleazeball scumbag LIEberals (Edwards, Gerblehardt, et al).

I hope Senator Nunn has the decency and good sense to flatly refuse to run with or support Hanoi John!


93 posted on 06/16/2004 10:30:43 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Badeye

The problem with Richardson is that he was Clinton's fixer in the Monica affair. Even though he's pretty competent and doesn't have the personal problems that most Clintonites have, he reminds everybody of the one aspect of the Clinton administration everybody would want to forget.


94 posted on 06/16/2004 10:32:49 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Servant of the 9
Same Nunn was reported to have been one of the congresscritters to receive an envelope from the Angel of Death (aka Charles Hayes) prior to the '94 election. He was one of an higher-than-usual number of public servants who decided they wanted to "spend more time with their family" that year. Also in that group was Patsy Schroeder who decided to retire at the height of her career (such as it was).

This info comes out of the Vince Foster / Systematics / PROMIS software / Stephens Brothers / BCCI / Octopus / Danny Casolaro ... story relayed by Dr. J. Orlin Grabbe.

The scenerio was that some good guys in the CIA had stumbled on financial records detailing massive payments made to US officials in exchange for cooperation concerning BCCI. These rogue elements in the CIA used this information to force their removal from public office. If you want to read more of this, do a google on some of the phrase mentioned above or go to Grabbe's website at orlingrabbe.com and look for the Vince Foster stuff. If this stuff is true, it'll curl your toes.

By the way, James Norman tried publishing much of the same independently obtained information while he was the editor of Forbes Magazine. This led to his resigning/firing and he published the info in (I think) Media Bypass Magazine. He used to hang out at FR. Not sure if he still does.
95 posted on 06/16/2004 10:34:55 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: mwl1

I don't believe the "common thought" about the 2008 race. I know, everybody and their mom thinks its Hillary Clinton's run for the Presidency......

Its not going to happen. She won't ever receive the Democratic Nomination, let alone win the general election.

There is a huge mound of evidence to support my view on this topic. From the basic "no woman has ever had a serious run, let alone won, a nomination" to "Senators rarely win a General Election for President" to "the historic high negatives of Hillary Clinton nationally" to "hard left liberalism is dying" to "Democratic Party membership is decreasing" to "Democratic Party has lost thousands of elective offices in the past decade".

There is simply no single politician in the country that so heatedly gets average voters as angry as the thought of Hillary Clinton does. It surpasses the anger of the far left against Bush. It doesn't "seem that way" today, because she isn't running for anything today, let alone President.

And then there is the simple fact that should the Democrats get blown out in November of this year, as they have the last couple of elections (discounting the 2000 Presidential race, it was another bad election cycle for democrats across the board, from local to state to Fed) Democrats - dumb as they are on most things - are just like the rest of us when it comes to the concept of "winning".

The Democratic Party reflects EXACTLY what the Clinton's want it to at this point, as it has since 1992. Its been a disaster for them politically to date. One more election cycle of losing at all levels, and thats the end of the Clintonian Era within the Democratic Party.

What I refer to as the "Susan Estrich Wing" of the Democratic Party understands this clearly. Among its members is Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, John Edwards, and others I won't list (this post is long enough).

Hillary Clinton isn't the nominee this year, as I predicted since the 2000 race. She won't be the nominee in any other election year as well.


96 posted on 06/16/2004 10:36:14 AM PDT by Badeye
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To: commish

Unless Nunn has changed, I cannot imagine that he would VP for a person like Kerry. When I worked on Capitol Hill, most of the Christian staffers there either worked for Nunn or tried to get on his staff. He is an evangelical. I was, however, extremely disappointed when he signaled a wavering stance on abortion about the time he considered running for president.


97 posted on 06/16/2004 10:39:55 AM PDT by twigs
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To: AmishDude

Ture enough, but Richardson has done a pretty good job of rehabilitating his image since the end of his time with the Clinton Administration.

No doubt his allegiance will be a factor, how much of one is the question Democrats will have to answer first, before "We the People" get to weigh in.


98 posted on 06/16/2004 10:40:23 AM PDT by Badeye
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To: mastequilla; babaloo

I heard Georgie Stephanwhatever bandy about the name of Bill Cohen this morning.


99 posted on 06/16/2004 10:42:20 AM PDT by EllaMinnow ("President Reagan has left us, but he has left us stronger and better." President George W. Bush)
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To: Theodore R.

Nunn spent most of his political life as a pro-lifer. I remember him making statements that compromised his position on abortion--it must have been some time in the 1980's. I don't remember what he said, but it was not the clear-cut hard-nosed opposition that he once held. I'm not sure what he believes today. I supected then that he was trying to appear more moderate so that he could capture some of the pro-abortion votes if he decided to run for president.


100 posted on 06/16/2004 10:49:06 AM PDT by twigs
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