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Ron Reagan, Jr.: Bush-Hater?
NewsMax.com ^ | 15 June 2004 | Staff Report

Posted on 06/15/2004 7:22:09 PM PDT by txradioguy

Republicans were dismayed to hear Ron Reagan, Jr., deliver what sounded like a rebuke to President Bush during a final tribute before his father was buried on Friday.

Referring to his dad as "a deeply, unabashedly religious man," the Reagan son added, "But he never made the mistake the fatal mistake of so many politicians - wearing his faith on his sleeve to gain political advantage. . . "

"He accepted [his faith] as a responsibility, not a mandate," noted the presidential son. "And there is a profound difference."

Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said there was no doubt the comments were a slap at Bush, but noted that Reagan Jr., "is somebody who's on the left more than on the right."

"He's never been in lockstep with his father or his father's legacy," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

In fact, Bush supporters should probably consider themselves lucky that Ron Jr. was able to keep his Bush-bashing under wraps for as long as he did.

Commenting on the president's nomination four years ago, a less restrained Ron Jr. asked sarcastically, "What's his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk?"

A for President Reagan's religion, he was indeed unabashed when it came to his Christian faith. He was the first president in over a century who openly professed his faith in "Jesus Christ." He used almost every major public opportunity to invoke God, God's name or prayer.

One of his most famous speeches, where he called the Soviet Union an 'Evil Empire', was at a conference of Evangelical ministers.


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To: My Favorite Headache

That is one strange family portrait. What's with the seating arrangement? Everything about that picture screams "dysfunctional family."


81 posted on 06/15/2004 8:35:04 PM PDT by giotto
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To: txradioguy

Ron Jr is a loser.


82 posted on 06/15/2004 8:37:44 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: miele man

should read "knot" in lieu of "know". Need to proof read better.


83 posted on 06/15/2004 8:42:13 PM PDT by miele man
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To: giotto
I don't think either Reagan son gave an outstanding eulogy for their father. Micheal is so fanatical about his siblings conversion to Christianity, he mentioned that he and Maureen would be the only ones to meet him in heaven. And Ron took the opportunity to take a swipe at someone by his 'wearing his religion on his sleeve' remark.

And poor dear Patti was not offensive, just tepid and removed in her remarks.
84 posted on 06/15/2004 8:43:11 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: My Favorite Headache
...defend him and his whore sister...

"Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was an hungered, and ye gave Me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave Me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took Me in: naked, and ye clothed Me: I was sick, and ye visited Me: I was in prison, and ye came unto Me."

85 posted on 06/15/2004 8:49:41 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: newgeezer

My daughter was in ROTC for 4 years and my husband in the military for 7. They both say you ARE supposed to put your hand over your heart during the anthem.


86 posted on 06/15/2004 9:01:52 PM PDT by ostephani
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To: txradioguy

Jr. Reagan is an ANTI-CHRISTIAN and a CHRISTIAN HATER.....Nancy Reagan did a HORRIBLE job at raising her kids....Jane Wyman did a MUCHO better job!


87 posted on 06/15/2004 9:04:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

"I happened to also notice that he never bowed his head during the various prayers."

He was interviewed on one of the many shows that I saw last week. He said that he knew that his rejection of organized religion hurt his Dad and that his Dad never accepted that.


88 posted on 06/15/2004 9:05:18 PM PDT by phil_will1
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To: Lizavetta

"I don't know if she's married but Michael Reagan seems to be head and shoulders above Nancy's children."

She's not married, she did have tubes tied and Michael and Maureen were brought up by their Mother, Jane Wyman. I have heard Michael honor her highly for it.


89 posted on 06/15/2004 9:08:03 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Ann Archy

From what I heard on TV last week, Nancy was not as interested in Christianity as her husband was. Looks like the kids followed in her footsteps.


90 posted on 06/15/2004 9:09:54 PM PDT by Vision Thing (If you do not study Reagan, you'll never understand America.)
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To: RobbyS

Don't forget that no pol ever carried a bigger Bible in public than Bill Clinton.



You're correct. And when the news was about Clinton and Monica he would carry a FIVE POUND BIBLE to church in full view of the news media. I've never seen that type event with any of the Bush Presidents.


91 posted on 06/15/2004 9:11:17 PM PDT by Gracey (NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)
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To: Spunky

"But the overall thrust of this administration is not my father's--these people are overly reaching, overly aggressive, overly secretive, and just plain corrupt. I don't trust these people."

I'm sure you could find liberals who thought the same thing about his Father's administration.


92 posted on 06/15/2004 9:13:47 PM PDT by phil_will1
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To: txradioguy

I knew immediately who Ron was talking about and was so sad that he chose that moment to do so, especially after President Bush had gone out of his way to be kind to his family. His Father would never have done such a thing, but as the article states, the son is a liberal, as is Patty.


93 posted on 06/15/2004 9:17:18 PM PDT by ladyinred (RIP Governor/President Reagan, ride peacefully into that sunset.)
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To: eeriegeno
Ron and Patti don't know who the hell they are. They are both spoiled kids who have never grown up and will use their father's legacy to further their own ambitions, however weak they are.........

I agree. Some of the quotes I've heard from Ron are really off the wall.

94 posted on 06/15/2004 9:21:33 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: txradioguy

It doesn't bother me either way. I was curious if anybody knew anything about it. Thanks. :)


95 posted on 06/15/2004 9:25:31 PM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: tapatio
The truth is, politics and morality are inseparable. And as morality's foundation is religion, religion and politics are necessarily related. We need religion as a guide. We need it because we are imperfect, and our government needs the church, because only those humble enough to admit they're sinners can bring to democracy the tolerance it requires in order to survive." Ronald Reagan August 1984

Tapatio, I never heard or read that quote before. I would like to see the rest of that speech; would you post the whole thing or a link to it? I can just see the libs reading that and protesting on the grounds of the "separation of church and state" invention. (I'd sure like to know who coined that phrase.)

96 posted on 06/15/2004 9:38:12 PM PDT by Mockingbird For Short ("When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" St. Luke 18:8)
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To: Lizavetta
I've been following the funeral threads since they started, and I've also been with FR quite a few years now, and I don't think I've ever seen this mentioned so forgive me if I'm drawing an ancient comparison...

Patty Davis looks exactly like Carrie Fisher.


97 posted on 06/15/2004 9:46:48 PM PDT by Serb5150 (God Bless Ronald Reagan.)
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To: ostephani
They both say you ARE supposed to put your hand over your heart during the anthem.

Correct.

Only service members in uniform are required to render a hand (or weapon) salute.
A civilian (or serviceman out of uniform) should always uncover and place hand over heart.

Veterans (in uniform) and the President may render either salute as they please.

98 posted on 06/15/2004 9:50:39 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: txradioguy

Thanks for the ping.

Today at a press conference with Karzai, President Bush was asked his opinion on Ron Reagan's remarks by a reporterette. He said he hadn't heard them, but gave a general answer about being religious but following the law.

The reporterette framed it as "Republicans" think Ron Reagan was referring to GWB. That is wrong. It is "people" that think it. Several freepers knew it, but the only pundits I've heard directly or indirectly say it are Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman and Keith Olberman---all, not coincidentally, I'm sure---colleagues with Reagan at MSNBC. Now we add Doug Brinkley to the mix. So, the only people with a public platform to discuss it on tv are NOT Republicans. I think most people with knowledge of Ron Reagan's recent (NewsMax seems unaware of his recent MSNBC punditry stints during the dem primaries where he bashed Bush with abandon) figured it out right away and it is not right or fair to say it is Republicans thinking the worst.


99 posted on 06/15/2004 9:55:53 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Integrityrocks
Why doesn't anyone think it was a jab at Kerry?

Because we're hip to what the libs are saying, and what they've been saying for about a month is that Dubya is a religious zealot who thinks he's on a divine mission in the war on terror. There is zero question in my mind that is what Ron Reagan was saying. I also think he'll spell it out eventually so everyone "gets it".

100 posted on 06/15/2004 10:03:32 PM PDT by cyncooper
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