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In Defense of the Inquisition
The Angelus ^ | November 1999 | Jean-Claude Dupuis

Posted on 06/15/2004 2:12:56 PM PDT by Fifthmark

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To: stuartcr

why must His Revelation be sought?



surely you jest...
The God of some religions, is forever engaged in the game of hide and seek... designed to keep the terrified cowering "sinner" ever seeking, but never coming to the knowlege of the undiscoverable truth.... for a small fee, of course.

Then their "merciful" God damns the poor 'little' people to an eternity in an unrelenting hell fire, for not being smart enough to discover the TRUE "revelation".

On the one hand he HIDES the candy in the clergy's pockets... and then abuses the child seeking a tasty treat.

It's all the same game.
bait and switch,
damned if you don't, damned if you do... either way the leadership of the religious nutcakes society collects another ten percent, and may get your underage son too.

Religious Europe was a blood bath for centuries.
Our families came here to get away from the persecution, and the right to pursue an "INDIVIDUAL" faith in God apart from th corrupted perversions of the religious leadership in Europe.

The inquisition was evil. So were its perpetrators.
They and their followers will likely spend eternity, in the very same pits, they HOPED they were condemning the "unrepentant" sinners unto.

good.
wouldn't want them stinking up the pearly gates.


221 posted on 06/21/2004 3:46:13 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Fifthmark; Long Cut; hchutch; rdb3; Modernman
The essential purpose of the State is to protect the welfare of its citizens. If you consider the salvation of each inhabitant through belief in the true religion revealed by God part of that "welfare," then the State has an obligation to support the true religion and repress public dissidence against it

I will repeat what I said to the last seditionist piece of excrement that wandered onto this board.

21 years ago, I swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Engage in intellectual onanism on this topic to your heart's content. Act on this sentiment at your peril.

222 posted on 06/21/2004 4:07:05 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Poohbah; Robert_Paulson2; hchutch; All
Oh wait, Pooh...you missed #97:

"The truth is, the Holocaust is right here. America -- which came of age practcing chattel slavery on Africans as well as ethnic cleansing and genocide on American Indians, has more than a few original sins to answer for. These are as nothing of course, compared to 40 million secret murders of the unborn and the present call for industrialised feedlots, cold storage, and slaughterhouses for human embryos, the better to convert human life to a profitable commodity. America is a mass grave."

Speaks for itself.

223 posted on 06/21/2004 8:19:59 AM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: All

I'd like to thank everyone for their contribution to this thread, which has devolved into name-calling, blasphemy, irreverance, and, in the course of Long Cut's overblown reactions, taking the Lord's Name in vain (see post #219). If you think yourself "conservative," ask yourself exactly what you're conserving and where the basis of that conservativism lies. Good day.


224 posted on 06/21/2004 12:45:38 PM PDT by Fifthmark
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To: Fifthmark; cyborg; MEG33; Poohbah; hchutch; Pukin Dog; BlueLancer; poink; GovernmentShrinker; ...
What a hypocrite you are.

YOU, FM, attempted to defend and excuse the crime against humanity that was the Inquisition.

YOU, FM, are the one who called for America to be a religious dictatorship.

YOU, FM, are the one who "damned" an entire sect of Christianity to Hell.

YOU, FM, claimed the SOLE "truth" of the universe for your OWN religion.

Myself and others rightfully called you on that, questioned it, and denounced the hateful, bigoted, and anti-American statements you and other fanatics made.

You, however, are so far gone that you are unable to even see why your insane rantings might bother us. Why they are counter to EVERYTHING this country stands for.

So now, you accuse US of hate! I'd laugh if your hypocrisy weren't so outright sickening. What a cowardly refuge you take, instead of even attempting any defense of your views!

And make no mistake, cowardly is what it is. You are like all those trolls on this forum who come here spouting one or another type of extremist hate or insanity, and are shocked, shocked! that honest, decent conservatives and libertarians condemn, denounce, and vilify them. They are dumbfounded that they so misjudged FReepers as being as psycho as they, so wrongly. However, like you, they will never examine the fallacies in their own paranoid beliefs, having taken such care to construct a mental house-of-cards to support their mania.

It is noteworthy that you bolted as soon as the heat came on in full force, along with the questions you preferred not to answer. Now, you return for a quickie, hit-and-run post like the cackle of a witch escaping on her broom after her castle is destroyed.

Enjoy your twisted, evil world. Rest assured, you occupy it quite alone. Any others so twisted in belief never group with others of like dementia. Their delusions of their own superiority and gradeur are too great.

It is one of America's triumphs as a free nation that it will, with God's good help, and that of a few Patriots, NEVER become the Hell-On-Earth that those of your ilk have tried to construct for so many centuries, and spilt so much blood and pain pursuing.

Your fear and cowardice here proves the weakness and utter uselessness of your course. I truly hope reason once again reaches you. Or, failing that, perhaps honesty...as I am still unconvinced that you are not some troll hoping to sow dissent in conservative ranks, or bring disdain upon us.

I, and many others have bookmarked this thread. Any other time you arrive to make points or posts, rest assured your words will reappear to show others just how "credible" those views are.

I might get banned for a post like this, but it is worth it to bring to light ther kind of mania and diseased thinking that has given the Left such a handy club to bash conservatism with ove the decades. SOMEONE must call you fanatics on your nonsense, SOMEONE has to proclaim that we are NOT all so blinded by mania and darkness of spirit that we would all embrace such an evil knotting of religion and our countries' ideals as you support.

People like you have done quite enough over the years to bring the Right down. It is time that you were cast down like the burrowing leeches on Freedom and Liberty that you are.

225 posted on 06/21/2004 3:49:45 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Long Cut

BTTT!!!!


226 posted on 06/21/2004 3:52:43 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Fifthmark

bumpkin


227 posted on 06/21/2004 4:00:40 PM PDT by tpaine (The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being" -- Solzhenitsyn)
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To: tpaine
You missed a really good one here, T.

The number of people who come to FR who are perfectly happy to exchange freedom, liberty, and all the blessings those things confer for the infamous boot stomping a human face, forever, is simply amazing.

It appears that if that boot has a gold cross or other religious emblem on its sole, they would welcome it with open arms. As long as it stomps the face of another, that is. How sad that they realize not that the boot would only bide its time till it found them.

228 posted on 06/21/2004 4:08:06 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Long Cut

When you get down to it...ol' Fifthmark didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.


229 posted on 06/21/2004 4:24:04 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Long Cut; Fifthmark

Well said, Long Cut. The venom spouted by Fifthmark in this thread is evil, hateful, sicknening, savage, and insane. The sooner this thread gets deleted the better.


230 posted on 06/21/2004 4:34:19 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Poohbah
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

For some reason, all weekend long there were different marks posting stories excusing or minimizing the Inquisition, this one was the most egregious, IMHO.

The Python skit got mentioned on them ALL, with pics and .wav files on some. The marks TRULY didn't expect it...

231 posted on 06/21/2004 4:34:50 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: PatrickHenry
The only problem I have with that, Pat, is that it would also remove the posts of those conservatives who so proudly stood for what is right, against the zealots and fanatics.

It is to our great credit that the vast majority of us who are NOT lunatics are here, and to our benefit that their words be seen.

232 posted on 06/21/2004 4:39:09 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Long Cut
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

The marks TRULY didn't expect it...

And just wait until they get put in the Comfy Chair!

233 posted on 06/21/2004 4:39:28 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Long Cut; Fifthmark
Great moments of the Inquisition:

The Crime of Galileo: Indictment and Abjuration of 1633

234 posted on 06/21/2004 4:51:34 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Don't ask for evidence if you're going to ignore it when you see it.)
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To: PatrickHenry; Ichneumon; tpaine; Poohbah; All
It always comes down to the same things, doesn't it?

Supress the will, supress the spirit.

Frighten the dissenters into holes or force them into graves.

Allow NO questioning or disagreement with "the Authority."

Use any and all means, no matter how evil, corrupt, or horrifying.

Achieve ABSOLUTE power over the lives and minds of others. Wield it like a mallett.

Allow NO facts or science which runs counter to the "accepted" dogma to be considered or even published.

How many times, Patrick? How many thousands, millions in our history as a species have been tossed into this same meatgrinder, albiet under different names? How many dreams shattered, how much property looted, how many Spirits darkened, forever?

Monarchism, theocratism, fascism, communism and now Islamism, how exactly are they different, save in name? It is all the same Beast behind the different masks...totalitarianism. The instinct of a few humans to rule their brethren, in an absolute manner, with the willingness to murder as many as possible in the achieving of that goal.

America exists as an almost-alone bulwark against that black instinct. Even today, we see what other nations would gladly do without us to bolster or protect them...surrender. To think that this great nation might, by such as FM, be turned to that "Dark Side", is enough to keep me vigilant for another century.

235 posted on 06/21/2004 5:05:29 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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Hey, Inquisition lover! Defend this:


GIORDANO BRUNO, torched by the Inquisition

In 1592, Bruno was arrested by the ecclesiastical authorities (The Inquisition) and put on trial for his beliefs, beliefs based on the real world such as those of Copernicus, and which he would not recant. After a seven year trail, Bruno, in an act which forever branded the church as an intolerant institution, at Rome, was put to death by burning.
Source: HERE.

236 posted on 06/21/2004 5:21:46 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry

Yet another log on the fire lit by the power junkies to illuminate their "sainted" faces, or the glitter on their crowns of iron.


237 posted on 06/21/2004 5:27:09 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Long Cut

Nice kook-out.


238 posted on 06/21/2004 5:27:34 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

Glad you enjoyed it. Be glad yourself that someone notices these patterns sometimes.


239 posted on 06/21/2004 5:30:04 PM PDT by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: gedeon3
Protestantism is the best thing that happened to the world, second only to the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.

What a f*cking joke and nearly blasphemous thing to say.
240 posted on 06/21/2004 5:31:04 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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