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Master sergeant works at adding heft to Humvees in Iraq
European Stars and Stripes ^ | June 13, 2004 | By Terry Boyd

Posted on 06/14/2004 3:11:27 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

BAGHDAD — The ideal, soldiers say, is that no one in Iraq should have to go outside the wire in anything less than M-1114 factory up-armored Humvee.

The reality is, little more than 20 percent of Humvees in Iraq are armored, and some soldiers trust their survival to a few sandbags and steel sheets.

Until the ideal is attainable, Master Sgt. Dennis P. Lichtenberg is striving to create the best-protected Humvees short of an M-1114.

Lichtenberg has invented a system he calls “The Lick Kit,” a play on his nickname “Lick,” pinned on by fellow reservists from the Pensacola, Fla.-based 350th Civil Affairs Detachment Command.

His inspiration for the Lick Kit was the Feb. 16 roadside-bomb death of Spc. Nicole M. Frye, 19, who was on convoy-escort duty with the 415th Civil Affairs Command.

Since her death in an unarmored Humvee, Lichtenberg — the 350th CA force-protection noncommissioned officer in charge — has been tweaking a whole array of designs to give his soldiers a fighting chance on convoy escorts.

Lick Kits are built around a unique system of multiple energy absorption techniques that even incorporate old flak jackets that Lichtenberg brought to Iraq from his job as a deputy-sheriff with Broward County, Fla., sheriff’s department.

Each door has a “bullet box” with 6 mm-thick exterior plate, with a gap of six inches, then another 5-mm steel plate.

The first piece of steel absorbs most of a 7.62 mm round’s energy.

The slowed, mushroomed round then stops after hitting the second plate.

And to make sure the round stays in the bullet box, Lichtenberg puts the flak jacket inside the gap between the two.

To test his design, Lichtenberg fired an AK-47 at it from 25 yards, and it stopped the round.

Moreover, it stopped rounds from M-16s, which have greater penetration, he said.

Lick Kits focus on protecting Humvee drivers because insurgents often target drivers, realizing they’re focused on the road, he said.

It’s often the secondary crash after the driver loses control that kills the rest of the crew, or disorients them so they can’t return fire, Lichtenberg said.

In addition to the bullet boxes, drivers get a ballistic glass window.

“We don’t want him to shoot, just drive,” Lichtenberg said.

Other passenger doors get the bullet boxes, but not the glass in order to allow a wide-open field of fire.

Lick Kits aren’t perfect, “but are better than what we had before … no protection,” Lichtenberg said.

“Any time out of the Green Zone, you have a 50/50 chance” of being attacked.“It’s very stressful … and we’re trying to relay that to command.”

Any unit with even a few thousand dollars in force-protection funds can duplicate his designs, Lichtenberg said.

It costs about $2,500 for four kits, and he’s modified eight of his 20 vehicles.

Near his headquarters in the Green Zone, workers at an Iraqi fabrication business are building more kits under the supervision of manager Qhasan Murad.

The kits are always evolving, Lichtenberg added, and he jokes that it’s “German engineering at its finest,” alluding to his German ancestry.

He credits his father, Louis Lichtenberg, a retired Chrysler Corp. mechanic in Minneapolis, Minn., for teaching him how to shape steel to his needs.

“He always says, ‘If you’re going to do something, do it right,’ ” he said. Of course, when creative juices are flowing, not everything goes perfectly.

Some of the early ideas were awful, specifically drop-down doors, Lichtenberg said.

In theory, the doors would be easy-in, easy-out. But the weight made them too heavy to pull up.

Many of the best ideas and modifications came from soldiers, and Lichtenberg’s operation is something of a custom-design shop.

Spc. Jason Copeland, 20, a reservists from Pensecola, Fla., said he suggested steel curtains on the rear of passenger windows to protect the face and neck of soldiers the sitting position, yet allow them to fire out the windows.

And his truck — which has since been handed off — had diamond-patterned steel in the rear bed for surer footing.

Lick Kits are always evolving.

Steel floor plates slightly angled to the rear give soldiers a better chance of kicking grenades out of the vehicle.

Bullet box plates are concave for additional space, and to redirect rounds.

Lichtenberg says he and other soldiers have new ideas every day, including using rebar to build an exterior grid that would detonate rocket-propelled grenades before they penetrate Humvee doors.

The current modifications make Humvees look like a cross between a Brinks armored car and a Humvee — and the robustness is no small factor, soldiers say.

One model belongs to Brig. Gen. Sandy Davidson, the 350th CA commanding general.

“He loves his!” Lichtenberg said.

Other soldiers aren’t as enthusiastic, though all interviewed said Lick Kits are far better than what they had — nothing.

“The Iraqis see steel, and they don’t shoot as much,” said Sgt. Greg Greenlee, with the 350th CA. “I don’t know if they’ll stop a bullet [but] they’ll work for now.”

In his Humvee’s original configuration, the gunner’s entire body was exposed, said Spc. Mike Carter, a gunner with the 350th. “You were just out there in the wind. Now, a lot more ‘me’ is protected as a gunner.”

He added that he’s confident the armor will withstand a small arms attack.

But big questions remain about how well Lick Kits will protect against bombs and rocket-propelled grenades, Carter said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: civilaffairs; hadjihardshell; humvee; humvees; iraq; lickkit; madmaxmobile; marines; uparmoredhumvee; wheeledarmor
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21 posted on 06/14/2004 8:16:37 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

off the shelf and ready to go. damn...this makes me wish for privately financed wars.


22 posted on 06/14/2004 8:31:54 PM PDT by Khurkris (Will the wind ever remember the names it has blown in the past, It whispers no this will be the last)
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23 posted on 06/14/2004 8:54:10 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Pic request. You're the best on posting pics of military stuff. I need a pic of a CH-47, a Sea Stallion and a Pave-Low SpecOps chopper. Some odd sightings over on the Threat Matrix threads.... But then, we ALL have our Tin Foil Hats on over there. Just soooo much fun.
24 posted on 06/14/2004 10:04:53 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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25 posted on 06/15/2004 2:50:59 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out)
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To: fourdeuce82d

That would be a ratings busting episode!


26 posted on 06/15/2004 3:29:14 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
In whose interest is it to mislead soldiers into thinking war is ever fought under ideal conditions, and that when conditions are not ideal it is evidence of incompetence, malfeasance or neglect by the chain of command?

Our “esteemed” news media has much to do with it. It views any danger as being nearly a crime.
While our forces were racing across Iraq with little resistance our news media was all happy and on our side. As soon as the first resistance (actually a pause to resupply) was encountered some turned.
When everything was going our way after the initial combat phase our news media was again with us - until we started taking casualties again.
We have to have front and side airbags, three point restraint seat belts, impact absorbing frames and mandatory liability insurance for our cars. People no longer need to actually pay attention to their driving. There is no longer much danger involved, and our driving habits reflect it.
The idea of perfect safety is counterproductive even in the military. If the trooper “knows” he is invulnerable he will no longer be alert to his surroundings.
27 posted on 06/15/2004 3:39:53 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

It appears that visibility is somewhat limited - particularly to anything high up. Not a good thing in an urban environment.


28 posted on 06/15/2004 3:44:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Squantos
Monster Garage ping. Why don't you organize a Freep of the Discovery Channel?
29 posted on 06/16/2004 9:27:51 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

IN PROGRESS !............:o)



I would love to see an episode of Monster Garage dedicated to military vehicles modified in such a manner by the actual troops that did the mods when they return home. A competition between 6 man teams from the Army, Marines and USAF fabricators that is judged in a demolition derby of sorts and the range at the end of the show. Run a gauntlet of commercial vehicles, then blast away with 7.62, 50 caliber and RPG's to determine the "winner" of design ideas.
I understand the winner in combat is the one who lives but I'd still like to see such a episode to test , highlight and publicize the troops individual efforts. Just an idea.........:o)

Stay safe !


7 posted on 06/16/2004 10:47:42 AM CDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1154543/posts?page=14


30 posted on 06/16/2004 10:30:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: centurion316
Of course, when the politicians get involved, all common sense goes out the window which is basically where we are now.

Amen to that.

31 posted on 07/02/2004 3:54:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (.New Linux SUSE Pro 9.1 user here.)
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