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Fox News Alert - Pledge case dismissed by USSC
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Posted on 06/14/2004 7:25:52 AM PDT by I still care

Just a breaking news bar - the court has thrown out Newdows case on a technicality. Score one for the pledge.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; flagday; lawsuit; newdow; pledge; pledgeofallegiance; pledgeofallegience; prayerlist; undergod
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To: Petronski

LOL!!! You were obviously watching Fox News like I was after the SCOTUS decision on Florida! What a nitwit Cosby was that night!


141 posted on 06/14/2004 12:21:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"Gutless"... This was the chicken way out."

With all due respect this is what SCOTUS had to do - and what the 9th Circus (sic) should have done too, because there wasn't a case to begin with.

As Newdow wasn't the legal guardian of his child, he didn't have legal standing. Ergo the whole suit was faulty from the beginning. And IIRC that's why he lost originally in the lower court. But he knew if he appealed to the mopes on the 9th Circus, they'd ignore the law and rule in his favor.

Again SCOTUS didn't duck anything or chicken out because there wasn't a legal case for them to rule on.

This ruling also means that Newdow is done, finished, kaput on the matter of the pledge and his daughter, period. He cannot re-file. This is not like he forgot to dot an "i".

That being said, look for him to file a suit over "In God We Trust" being on our money as there he does have a standing. And IIRC he has threatened to do just that if he lost this case.

142 posted on 06/14/2004 12:26:59 PM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
**I'm not sure why his ex wife became a Christian. Probably out of gratitude from being released from the torment of a bad marriage. Also, she probably converted for the sake of their daughter. **

Newdow and Banning were never married. She became a Christian after they split up.

143 posted on 06/14/2004 12:30:24 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
.... because they were scared to rule consistently with previous rulings. That's all. They are saving it for another day.

You are absolutely correct. The libs don't want another issue to arouse flyover country in an election year. They want to elect as many demoncrats as possible this fall, then settle the gay marriage issue first. They know that the ACLU can drum up a plaintiff to sue again any time they feel the political landscape is back in their favor.

Right now there are too many organizations working on the recall or impeachment of judges and John Q. Public is already upset about judicial activism. They are just waiting for the opportune moment.

See http://www.article8alliance.org and help them remove the 4 activist judges who are bringing gay marriage to the U.S.

144 posted on 06/14/2004 12:32:05 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Pray for our troops, that our domestic enemies would be silenced.)
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To: Condor51

Yes, this is what I've been saying ever since we first heard the details of this case. The 9th just got slapped down hard with this dismissal. Wonder if any of them are bright enough to figure that out?


145 posted on 06/14/2004 12:37:31 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Condor51
Those mopes need to be impeached or at least sanctioned.

Hear! Hear! This "misfeasance" should be enough for removal from office.

146 posted on 06/14/2004 1:12:53 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: mc6809e

What is that supposed to mean?


147 posted on 06/14/2004 1:32:17 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: savedbygrace
**The 9th just got slapped down hard with this dismissal. Wonder if any of them are bright enough to figure that out? **

The 9th gets slapped down regularly. They're obviously *not* bright enough to figure it out. sigh.

148 posted on 06/14/2004 1:33:38 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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To: VadeRetro
Hah! This close to the election, most Dem pols won't dare even squeak, no matter what they'd usually say.

And one big election issue for Bush-Cheney just got tossed out the window by the S.C.

149 posted on 06/14/2004 1:37:17 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: discostu
NO ACTIVIST JUDGES!!!*





*Unless they're activists for my side
150 posted on 06/14/2004 1:37:55 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: I still care

Sociopaths will try any trick in the book to "win". He doesn't care about his daughter.


151 posted on 06/14/2004 1:41:40 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

I wasn't aware that they weren't married. It figures. More power to her for choosing the right path. I don't practice my faith as I should, but I make sure my kids know the ten commandments, and right from wrong...from a biblical perspective.


152 posted on 06/14/2004 1:48:23 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: cgk
I wonder if O'Connor took that extra step after feeling the weight of her own conscience this week with the passing of the Man who put her on that court.

It's possible. You never know what flits into that woman's head whenever she rules on a case.

153 posted on 06/14/2004 1:50:57 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: I still care

Newdow getting reamed by Mark Levin on Hannity, right now


154 posted on 06/14/2004 2:25:21 PM PDT by hattend (Rest in Peace, President Reagan.)
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To: Action-America
Another case will soon be brought, in the 9th Circuit's jurisdiction, using the same points that got the case this far, but without that technical flaw. If it is sufficiently similar, it will fly through the lower courts and be back to the SCOTUS in relatively short order and we will be going through all of this again.

That is correct. In fact, just a couple of hours ago I got a copy of a mass emailing canvassing for a better plaintiff. The next time around, they'll have the perfect case; and since I think the conservative justices would have pushed for a real decision on Newdow had they thought they had five sure votes, I'd say this is a very temporary victory for those who support the post-1954 POA.

155 posted on 06/14/2004 2:39:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: cyncooper

My understanding was that he was NEVER married to the child's mother.


156 posted on 06/14/2004 3:04:24 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq (,)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

So I understand. I was just reporting what was being said on tv.


157 posted on 06/14/2004 3:16:59 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: I still care
Newdow--an unhappy man before the decision, remains an unhappy , lonely man--except for the swarm of reporters.


158 posted on 06/14/2004 3:32:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
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To: asmith92008
Don't agree. This case should have been dismissed from the get go because Nudow said his daughter was being harmed, but the truth was that she is a Christian and didn't want the suit brought i her name. (Nor did the mother.) It is proper for the court to slap him down and say NO STANDING. In fact, it's what the 9th Circuit should have done.

Now that the procedural housekeeping chores are finished, the SC justices are free to rule (if the suit is brought up again) on the "real" issue. However, given Sandra Day O'conner's increasing liberality - I wouldn't push for it. I'd prefer waiting until we get some new judges in first.

159 posted on 06/14/2004 3:51:27 PM PDT by Libertina (Reagan showed us what being a great president was all about. Thank you sir for bringing pride!)
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To: rwfromkansas

I think you've summed it up pretty well.

We've heard the expression "the lunatics are running the asylum", but seldom do we get to see an actual lunatic get this close. The fact that this man had the entire country taking sides on a matter which should not have been in the courts, when he should instead be receiving the strongest form of psychiatric treatment, is more than a shame--it is a travesty.

The above is my firmly-held opinion.


160 posted on 06/14/2004 4:07:59 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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