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Porn scam netted 900,000 users, $37.5 million dollars and 11 years in jail
Security News Portal ^ | 05-11-2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/12/2004 7:52:11 AM PDT by ijcr

A man who admitted illegally using credit card information of about 900,000 people to sign them up for pornographic Web sites was sentenced Monday to more than 11 years in prison. Kenneth H. Taves, 52, was also ordered to pay restitution for the scheme, which prosecutors estimated netted him $37.5 million.

About $12.8 million has been recovered, and another $8.1 million is believed to be in banks in the South Pacific island of Vanuatu. The rest of the money has not been found, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Brent Whittlesey.

Taves, of Malibu, ran a business called NetFill that provided access to porn sites for $19.95 a month. In 1997 and 1998, he charged that fee to about 900,000 credit cards of people who had never used the service, prosecutors said.

He bought the credit card information from a Southern California bank for $5,000. Taves, who pleaded guilty to the fraud charges in 2001, was sentenced to 11 years and three months in prison. The sentencing delay was due to efforts to determine the full amount lost in the case and because Taves switched attorneys several times, officials said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: creditcards; fraud; internet; kennethtaves; pr0n; taves
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As the poster notes:-

a) He made $37.5 million dollars... and people wonder why the scammers do it ?

b) The 'dumb' bank sold the scammer the personal data on 900,000 people for $5000 - what is the point of securing infrastructures when the banks sell the info...

c) When this dude gets out of jail in 11 years he will still have about $20 million that the cops did not find - and after 11 years of running 'security web sites' I will probably have only $20 saved in my bank account.... hmmmm....

1 posted on 06/12/2004 7:52:13 AM PDT by ijcr
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To: ijcr
Crime pays. Restitution seemingly is rarely paid (in cases small or large).

I had a case where I was defrauded by mail. Bill Clinton's Arksansas (he was governor at the time) fined the 2 brothers most of the $10,000 that they got from about 800 people (I lost $72 buying merchandise that never shipped).

Even in the big "CD price fixing" class action lawsuit, the states took most of the money the labels paid out.

2 posted on 06/12/2004 7:57:08 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: ijcr

Anybody dumb enough to provide a credit card number to a porn site is too dumb to get credit in the first place.


3 posted on 06/12/2004 7:57:21 AM PDT by JW Brown
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To: JW Brown
I guess you missed this part:

He bought the credit card information from a Southern California bank for $5,000.

4 posted on 06/12/2004 7:58:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: JW Brown

Oops, should have read the whole article. Maybe I shouldn't have credit.


5 posted on 06/12/2004 7:58:54 AM PDT by JW Brown
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To: JW Brown
Real men don't have to pay for sex with credit cards. Of course sex is no longer the exclusive domain of real men anymore. Is San Francisco considered "southern" California? Maybe he just scammed the cards of people with gay names like Bruce.
6 posted on 06/12/2004 8:08:39 AM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: JW Brown
Anybody dumb enough to provide a credit card number to a porn site is too dumb to get credit in the first place.

They didn't.

He bought the credit card numbers for a bank.

Sometimes it is useful to actually RTFA.

7 posted on 06/12/2004 8:19:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: JW Brown

Why would people pay for porn anyway? There's plenty of free Internet sites available, uh, I've been told.


8 posted on 06/12/2004 8:20:59 AM PDT by ServesURight
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To: JW Brown

That was the whole point of the article...people did not provide their credit card numbers...the bank sold them.


9 posted on 06/12/2004 8:22:39 AM PDT by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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To: bayourod
Maybe he just scammed the cards of people with gay names like Bruce.

Demi Moore and I take exception to your opinion.

10 posted on 06/12/2004 8:38:41 AM PDT by brucebrucebruceoftheforest (George contracted jungle rot.)
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He bought the credit card information from a Southern California bank for $5,000.

Uhh...why is the bank selling credit card info? This should have been the lead of the story not the porn scam.

11 posted on 06/12/2004 8:44:44 AM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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"Demi Moore"

An oxymoroon. Unless "demi" is short for demimonde.

12 posted on 06/12/2004 8:56:48 AM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: bayourod

She was married to Bruce Willis. Perhaps that is what he meant.


13 posted on 06/12/2004 9:07:39 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

She married a gay man?


14 posted on 06/12/2004 9:22:01 AM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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He bought the credit card information from a Southern California bank for $5,000

WHAT BANK!?? Which banker is in jail and begging bubba to go easy?

That was no accident or "mistake"


15 posted on 06/12/2004 9:49:44 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: garbanzo

***Uhh...why is the bank selling credit card info? This should have been the lead of the story not the porn scam.***

ABSOLUTELY!


16 posted on 06/12/2004 9:54:08 AM PDT by kitkat (PLEASE STEAL THIS TAG: "The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay))
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To: ijcr

Did you know that Security News Portal has copied your reply here? It is not cited to you. Or maybe you added it to their comment section. I'm curious.


17 posted on 06/12/2004 10:02:13 AM PDT by kitkat (PLEASE STEAL THIS TAG: "The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay))
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To: kitkat

The poster is probably the man behind SNP.


18 posted on 06/12/2004 10:09:47 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: ijcr
c) When this dude gets out of jail in 11 years he will still have about $20 million that the cops did not find

Yes, 11 years with lots of sex-starved boyfriends named "Bubba". They'll also have a curiosity about easily acquired funds. So, all-in-all, crime does not pay.

19 posted on 06/12/2004 10:30:42 AM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: ijcr; weegee

Isn't this electronic world comforting? Knowing that our personal information is being collected by every agency in the world and then being shared with all the foreign countries.

My banker told me to call the few credit card companies I have cards from and change the account numbers annually. I wonder when this will be a monthly ID security measure?


20 posted on 06/12/2004 11:24:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( GET READY!!...........http://www.ready.gov/get_a_kit.html)
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