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UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
WorldTribune.com ^ | 6/11/04

Posted on 06/11/2004 1:17:07 PM PDT by freebilly

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To: Darth Reagan

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41 posted on 06/11/2004 1:43:48 PM PDT by marblehead17
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To: freebilly

I believe the issue of the WMDs is the single biggest problem Bush has faced. He played this issue too straight and too lawyerly and was not aggressive enough. The issue should have always been framed that we don't know where Saddam put them rather than whether they existed at all. I think his handling of this issue (and its still not too late) is one of the single most impacting factors on whether he wins in Nov. If a large cache were found, Bush wins hands down. If we continue to get dribs and drabs, then its still in play like its been.


42 posted on 06/11/2004 1:43:56 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: freebilly

Yo, Dan Rather. You wanted to cover other news? Here ya go, Bub. And there's still time to get in on the Evening News.


43 posted on 06/11/2004 1:50:42 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Of course the next Dem/media response will be:

"So if you knew the WMD existed, why didn't you prevent their smuggling of it out? Now your botching of the war effort has made it worse, spreading the underground proliferation when before the war at least it was 'contained' in Iraq."


44 posted on 06/11/2004 1:58:27 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat (In 10 minutes Lady Thatcher has knocked down 10+ years of media myths.)
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To: freebilly
What or who exactly is the World Tribune? Is this being reported elsewhere?
45 posted on 06/11/2004 2:01:08 PM PDT by hankbrown
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To: freebilly
I just spoke with UNMOVIC
I went to their web site, found the phone number and called them myself. The guy said the inspection team found about 20 SA-2 missile engines (or something like that) in Jordan. And the report over the past week that a bunch of Iraqi weaponry metal was found in a junkyard in the Netherlands was part of the UNMOVIC report, too.

The 15-page quarterly report, PDF file format, can be found here:

Slam Dunk: Iraq did have WMDs, but Dan Rather doesn't really care

By the way, the gentleman I spoke to regarding the report was very polite...he answered my questions without any apparent political agenda (though I suspect, being a U.N.er, he is liberal). He did say they suspect most of the material was taken away after the war was pretty much over last year. I commented that this wasn't really making much news, and he said the L.A. Slimes and the New York Slimes had reported on it.

I was just amazed how David Kay's "we were all wrong" comment got front page, 3-days of coverage....and this vindicating report gets scant attention.

If you want to speak to UNMOVIC, here is the number: 212-963-3022. Please, be polite. The guy was very accomodating and seemed quite knowledgeable regarding the matter. I didn't get a name.

46 posted on 06/11/2004 2:01:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: freebilly; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ..

major BUSH WAS RIGHT bump...again...


47 posted on 06/11/2004 2:02:55 PM PDT by RaceBannon (God Bless Ronald Reagan, and may America Bless God!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good for you for calling!


48 posted on 06/11/2004 2:04:32 PM PDT by livius
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To: hankbrown
I called UNMOVIC myself...the guy who answered the phone was very helpful and told me straight out what the report contains. See my earlier post.

ANYONE out there have SEE BS Snooze's phone numbers?? Let's call those jackals and ask if they're going to do a report on WMDs being FOUND.

49 posted on 06/11/2004 2:06:18 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Dog

its still going to be hard to make the case, because the media has cemented the "no WMD" reality so hard - that its going to be hard to dislodge, an uphill battle.


50 posted on 06/11/2004 2:06:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: freebilly
I can't help but feel we wasted valuable time screwing around for months with the UN to satisfy a bunch of mamsy-pamsy feel-good world-community kumbia-singing types here at home who couldn't care less about how a delay might impact the final outcome of the war on terror.

IMHO, we lost a large element of surprise in Iraq, and once finally there, were left to close the proverbial barn-door. For once, I wish we as a nation would get our act together, get out of our President's way, and let him lead us to where we need to be in order to win this thing.
51 posted on 06/11/2004 2:07:14 PM PDT by IAMNO1
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To: freebilly
SEE B.S. "SNOOZE"
Website. I did an "advanced search" for "IRAQ" and "WMD"...the result I got was from a report was filed March 2004:

U.N.: No Iraq WMD Since '94 | March 3, 2004 06:54:15

I guess See B.S. and their all mighty producers and gatekeepers of knowledge think the FINAL word was spoken last March...hmmmm...
52 posted on 06/11/2004 2:10:56 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: freebilly

Hmmm, Administration quiet on Oil for Food corruption scandal and U.N. sings a new tune on WMD suddenly. Maybe I'm also guilty of "misunderestimating" a certain President.


53 posted on 06/11/2004 2:13:48 PM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Diddle E. Squat; okie01; Kenny Bunk; hchutch; Mitchell; Allan; Jeff Gannon; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Of course the next Dem/media response will be:

I've followed this on a bit. Certainly the powers that be in both parties know what has been found so far. The anti-Bush angle will be that the stockpiles were not "large". Rumsfeld, others said they were "large", so if they are not, "they lied."

The other angle developing is that the war was unnecessary because Saddam sent the "weapons" away.

It's very interesting to watch the spin develop, and I saw it sounded out by John Kerry himself! This is him on "Hardball"

Matthews: If there was an exaggeration of WMD, exaggeration of the danger, exaggeration implicitly of the connection to al Qaeda and 9/11, what's the motive for this, what's the "why?" Why did Bush and Cheney and the ideologues around take us to war? Why do you think they did it?

Kerry: It appears, as they peel away the weapons of mass destruction issue, and--we may yet find them, Chris. Look, I want to make it clear: Who knows if a month from now, you find some weapons. You may. But you certainly didn't find them where they said they were, and you certainly didn't find them in the quantities that they said they were. And they weren't found, and I have talked to some soldiers who have come back who trained against the potential of artillery delivery, because artillery was the way they had previously delivered and it was the only way they knew they could deliver. Now we found nothing that is evidence of that kind of delivery, so the fact is that as you peel it away I think it comes down to this larger ideological and neocon concept of fundamental change in the region and who knows whether there are other motives with respect to Saddam Hussein, but they did it because they thought they could, and because they misjudged exactly what the reaction would be and what they could get away with.

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"But you certainly didn't find them where they said they were, and you certainly didn't find them in the quantities that they said they were." --No way Kerry mouths this without some background. Heck, one of his campaign advisers, Joseph Wilson, is married to a CIA WMD proliferation expert.

So the "Plan of Attack" is not as much as alleged, and not in Iraq.

54 posted on 06/11/2004 2:14:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: freebilly

Gee, who knew. Uh, GWB for one.


55 posted on 06/11/2004 2:15:15 PM PDT by hershey
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To: freebilly

Drudge has this on his site, too. Good.


56 posted on 06/11/2004 2:17:16 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: freebilly
CBS NEWS NATIONAL DESK PHONE:
212-975-4114


I just called and asked them if the UNMOVIC report is going to be on the news soon. I got some lackey kid (probably an intern) who said he hadn't heard anything about it.

FREEPERs, please call these people and let them know WE KNOW the truth!!

57 posted on 06/11/2004 2:18:03 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

"I was just amazed how David Kay's "we were all wrong""

You'd be more amazed trying to figure out what David Kay thinks "we" were wrong about.

He uses the "large" stockpiles angle a lot.


58 posted on 06/11/2004 2:18:19 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: freebilly

I can't believe you would bother posting this garbage. We have to suffer all week with this Reagan funeral and now you come up with this??? Let's get back to important topics like terrorists being forced to wear ladies underwear on their heads. I think we only spent a couple of months discussing that topic. WMDs and Reagan detract from it's historic importance. If you are wanting breaking news flashes there is a rumor circulating that Kerry served in Viet Nam.


59 posted on 06/11/2004 2:19:16 PM PDT by doggieboy
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To: luv2ski
paging Mr. Hans Blix, Mr. Hans Blix....

No, more like, "Paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard"

Wish I had a pic of that.

60 posted on 06/11/2004 2:19:54 PM PDT by pctech
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