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CLINTON DISAPPOINTMENT: LEFT OFF FUNERAL SPEAKERS LIST (Updated)
Drudge Report | 6/8/04

Posted on 06/08/2004 8:54:12 AM PDT by lainie

Edited on 06/08/2004 11:18:28 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: ixsemper
All you have to do is read press reports about him around the world. Haven't you noticed that when there are difficult political situations around the world (see Venezuela) he is always called to act as mediator and is listened to by both sides. And there is that little prize they gave him in Stockholm .....

I profoundly disagree. I have known Carter since before he was governor of our state (and a sanctimonious, micro-managing one he was, too. Walked around lowering the thermostats in the Capitol building, gave the GBA fits because of course they were balanced and he threw the entire HVAC system out of whack.) As a fellow Georgian, I always wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I too used to say that he was a good decent man but a bad president. But his conduct since leaving office (starting with the horrible interview he and Rosalyn gave back in 1980 where they trashed Reagan just out of pure spitefulness, though his much-publicized spat with the Southern Baptist Convention, his unsolicited attacks on Bush, etc. etc.) I can no longer say that in good conscience.

BTW, he isn't usually "called to act as mediator" - nine times out of ten, he "volunteers himself" for the job. As he did in North Korea, where he freelanced an agreement without the knowledge or approval of the U.S. It irked Clinton no end that he did it, but his inept negotiations made the NK problem much worse. When he's "called", it's usually by a socialist or Communist government seeking to embarass the U.S. (e.g. Venezuela). And the Nobel Prize, I fear, was simply the Committee's way of giving the U.S. one in the eye.

1,201 posted on 06/09/2004 7:12:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ixsemper; Maria S
Jimmy Carter has a tremendous reputation all over the world and even in the US no one ever suggested that he was not a good and decent man

He's a dunce, underhanded, arrogant, and in effect committing treason when he lobbies with foreign leaders against our current President and national foreign policy initiatives.

1,202 posted on 06/09/2004 7:19:39 AM PDT by Tamzee (Noonan on Reagan, "...his leadership changed the world... As president, he was a giant.")
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To: lainie

Once again the me, me, me, me and I, I, I its all about me I have to be the center of attention syndrome strikes Clinton. I saw Clinton on the news, I believe it was on Fox News, when he related a story of how he visited Mr. Reagan after being elected to his first term, Mr. Reagan handed him a jar of red, white and blue jelly beans with a Presidential Seal on the lid. While telling this story, Clinton called the White House his White House, and the Oval Office his office. Such arrogance and self importance.


1,203 posted on 06/09/2004 7:28:53 AM PDT by ChevyZ28 (THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AND NEVER WILL BE ANOTHER PRESIDENT TO HOLD A CANDLE TO RONALD REAGAN)
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To: abner
"He should be respectful, and butt out!"

When has he ever been respectful of anything or anybody...least of all the dead? It's all about him, you know.

1,204 posted on 06/09/2004 7:30:42 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: lainie

Nancy Reagan ought to be in the Senate.
She would know what to do with the
Democrats.


1,205 posted on 06/09/2004 7:32:29 AM PDT by Knight Templar
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To: ixsemper

pass the doobie. sheesh.


1,206 posted on 06/09/2004 7:38:24 AM PDT by lainie
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To: TomGuy

<< Carter is still hoping to find a legacy. He sure can't look on his Presidency as one.

Clinton could have built a legacy, he gave into this baser self and Monica defined his Presidency ..... >>

And that's only because he got lucky when his red herring [The whoremonica] worked and diverted attention from his various other lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, serial rapes and treason long enough for Gorelicker to destroy the links between intelligence-gathering and feral police work and save him and his loathsome and fearsome spouse, Bruno, from his 'preidency's' real legacy -- and life sentences in Leavenworth!


1,207 posted on 06/09/2004 8:14:50 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Did you hear that my beloved FRiend died, today? -- President Ronald Wilson Reagan 1911 - 2004)
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To: Brian Allen

1,208 posted on 06/09/2004 8:41:25 AM PDT by mikrofon (May God Rest the Gipper)
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To: lainie

Laura Ingraham just mentioned this story BTTT


1,209 posted on 06/09/2004 8:44:28 AM PDT by hattend (Rest in Peace, President Reagan.)
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To: abner
"Why is this man still talking?

Because--- unfortunately--- he's still breating!

1,210 posted on 06/09/2004 8:56:51 AM PDT by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: Darth Reagan

whoa, do you realize you used the words 'good' and 'respectful' in the same sentence with the name Clinton!?


1,211 posted on 06/09/2004 9:05:27 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: ChocChipCookie
i really don't think Clinton should have a role at the funeral. But if the pics on TV were of Nixons funeral procession, the former presidents were lined up with the current pres standing slightly forward of them. So seeing as how Nixons was not a true state funeral, i guess that Reagans may be even more formal and that the former presidents will have some role (even if it is just standing and sitting together).
1,212 posted on 06/09/2004 9:16:13 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: AnAmericanMother; Tamsey

I think you are both absolutely right on the mark about Carter!


1,213 posted on 06/09/2004 9:55:18 AM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: onyx; GOPrincess
Good morning, Onyx. I'll always respond to your pings. Just got online a few minutes ago, and just saw your discussion with GOPrincess. Yep, I did record the ceremony Monday. I can only tell you what I saw with my own eyes, which is this:

When the casket was being brought into the lobby of the library to lie in repose, the camera moved over to cover Mrs. Reagan and the family. As it did, there was a shot of a very elderly, very frail-looking woman, dressed all in black, standing with her arm around that of a military escort. The escort appeared to be of general officer rank (perahps a one-star vs. the three-star escorting Mrs. Reagan). As you pass through the library doors, this lady and her escort were standing inside on what would be your right.

A very elderly woman, allowed into the private family-only service and accorded the honor of a high-ranking military escort, but who didn't sit with the family? I don't know who else that would be other than Jane Wyman. On the other hand, since I didn't hear anyone mention her name, it's not impossible it was someone else.

1,214 posted on 06/09/2004 10:16:04 AM PDT by Wolfstar (He slipped the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God. Thank you President Reagan.)
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To: Rebelbase
"Isn't it Nancy's call as to whom speaks? Her wish should be respected."

Yeah; doubtless she's seen the Clintons' behavior at funerals. I'm sure that Nancy has no desire to turn her husband's funeral into a democRAT canpaign rally.

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1,215 posted on 06/09/2004 10:36:51 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Good-night sweet prince, and flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.")
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To: ruoflaw; AnAmericanMother

Ahhh, thanks, but I just vented.... AnAmericanMother gave excellent detail to support her conclusion :-)


1,216 posted on 06/09/2004 10:42:12 AM PDT by Tamzee (Noonan on Reagan, "...his leadership changed the world... As president, he was a giant.")
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To: Tamsey; ruoflaw
AnAmericanMother gave excellent detail to support her conclusion :-)

Hey, I suffered through it! :-D

1,217 posted on 06/09/2004 11:37:09 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: lainie

His disappointment is our joy.


1,218 posted on 06/09/2004 12:23:04 PM PDT by b4its2late (According to my calculations, the problem doesn't exist.)
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To: commish

Ford said on Larry King Live that he will be there.


1,219 posted on 06/09/2004 1:38:30 PM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: oldfart
" . . .he's still breating!

May I take the liberty of correcting your spelling? Thank you!

". . . he's still breeding!'

1,220 posted on 06/09/2004 2:23:27 PM PDT by Eastbound ("Ne'er a scrooge or a patsy be.")
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