FEINSTEIN INTRODUCES "ASSAULT WEAPONS" REAUTHORIZATION BILL (S.2498)

NRA-ILA ^ | 6/4/2004 | NRA

[Joe Brower]

FEINSTEIN INTRODUCES "ASSAULT WEAPONS" REAUTHORIZATION BILL
NRA-ILA
June 4, 2004

Yesterday, vehemently anti-gun Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)introduced S. 2498, legislation that would reauthorize the Clinton gun ban. The bill is being held on the Senate floor and could come up at any time.

This is the start of a sustained political battle we`ll be waging over the next few months. Our opponents will continue to work at every turn to try and accomplish their anti-gun goals, and we need to be prepared. Please visit NRA-ILA`s informative website-- www.ClintonGunBan.com --and learn the facts about this debate, which has too long been driven and dominated by falsehoods and emotion. And please forward this website to others who need to know both the history and the truth about this issue. Then, please contact your Senators and urge them to oppose S. 2498 or any other legislation seeking to extend the so-called "assault weapons" ban.

You can find contact information for your elected officials by using the "Write Your Representatives" tool at http:/www.NRAILA.org, or you can call your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121.

[DugwayDuke]

"Absolutely she plans to 'strengthen' the AW ban. This time around they realize their past mistakes. They want semi-autos taken out, period."

Just after the AWB was passed, Feinstein said on Larry King that if she'd had the votes she would have outlawed all semi-automatic weapons.

[Joe Brower]

I just put this information on TheHighRoad.org under the "Legal and Political" heading.

[King Prout]

I cannot adequately express my loathing of this communist pile of pig offal without being banned from FR.

[snooker]

Of course every action has consequences. There are a lot of nice 10 shot CCW designs that hit the market after the ban. A 10 shot Glock 26 makes a nice carry gun :-}

I will spread it to boards I go to. The more attention the mag ban gets the more support for doing away with the whole ban.

I agree, I will bet not many know the two are linked.

[Long Cut]

"Mr. and Ms. America, TURN THEM ALL IN!"

This quote needs to be spread far and wide. There are still many hunters and collectors who do not understand that she WASN'T talking about just semi-autos.

Hell, I've even seen FReepers who thought that this affected only "machine guns", and who asked why one needs an "assault rifle" to hunt deer.

Some might even show up on this thread. In that event, we must make every effort to politely explain the difference. Leave the shrillness and hysteria to the Dims.

[risk]

Those millions would also pay for a wide range of black operations, beyond simply a media campaign.

Trav, there are so many related scenarios. I have long wondered about more subtle factors. What about our trend toward urbanized living? Most kids don't grow up around firearms any longer. This makes me wonder if they become mythical objects to many urban dwellers? Firearms appear almost daily in our entertainment media. Research varies on the effects of media violence. But are they asking the right questions? For example, what impact does urbanized exposure to media violence play in the role in incidents of indiscriminate firearms violence? These situations must be at the extreme periphery of human behavior, and yet they seem to have increased greatly since we decided to "ban" and "control" classes firearms. I am also fascinated by the possibility that firearms "demonizing" and related "myth making" in our mass entertainment and liberal journalism actually could trigger an increase in indiscriminate violence.

When a senator stands up in session and decries our lack of control over the "weapons of war on the streets of America," unmonitored, urban children and teens listen. Are these speeches and the very struggle over firearms control in our society producing a kind of "larger than life" image for gas pressure projectile weapons in the minds of our citizens? And given human nature, when pathology pushes one of them over the edge, aren't some of them reaching for ready-made, "epic" objects of myth and legend?

The China card of massacres might be less intentional than we think. It might be a simple combination of nonexistent mentoring and media abuse of the firearm as the ultimate symbol of power and evil. I hope serious firearms rights research at least stops to examine these ideas. It's possible that we could reduce indiscriminate acts of firearms violence with just a few steps. The sad thing is that the same people who are demonizing firearms will balk at introducing firearms training and mentorship in urban schools. Imagine responsible mentors from among the law-enforcement and military communities teaching youth about the real power and ultimate limitations inherent in firearms?

We can have sex education that claims it is unrealistic to teach abstinence, with untold impact on promiscuity and irresponsible sexual behavior, and yet a simple course introducing firearms concepts with actual time on the range with good mentors is too risky. We've turned our world upside down, putting the city dwellers in charge of our future. We shouldn't be surprised that their craving for safety and predictability leads to extremes in firearms perceptions. When someone snaps, what has fortified him with a practical understanding of the tools of death? They're more than they really are to those people: they're ugly, black instruments of power and myth. Country folk usually know better, and yet our urbane legislators seem to be only making potential for deviance worse.

[Long Cut]

Great. I'm heading over to Armalite.com's forums. Can you hit AR-15.com?

[El Gato]

I would be shocked to see Kerry go out of his way to help her in this effort.

Why would you be shocked? About the only vote Senator (cash and) Kerry has made this year was the one to add an amendment to the anti frivolous lawsuit bill. The amendment passed, but with it, the bill did not pass in the Senate. Here's what his official Senate website has to say about his position on your RKBA (which of course he doen't believe you have, except maybe to keep double barrelled shotguns and bear arms afield against the whily Chinese Ringneck.):

Gun Control
Senator Kerry is deeply troubled by the numbers of people - and particularly the number of children - that are wounded or killed by gunfire each year and he supports stricter gun control measures in order to prevent children and adults from misusing any of the approximately 192 million firearms currently in circulation in the United States. He believes that we need to close the gun show loophole, which permits sales at gun shows without a background check, require the provision of a child safety lock on all handguns, and increase controls on assault weapons and handguns.

Gun Safety Locks
Greatly concerned by the numbers of children who are victims of handgun violence every day, Senator Kerry authored the Gun Lock Consumer Protection Act, which requires the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) to formulate minimum safety standards for gun safety locks and to ensure that only such locks that meet the minimal standard are available for purchase by consumers. The use of gun safety locks is increasing in the United States, but despite the growing use of these locks, they are not subject to any minimal safety standards. The CPSC has participated in the voluntary recall of hundreds of thousands of locks over the past couple of years.

[snooker]

"A mass-shooting incident between now and then."

Didn't happen with the DC sniper shooting, despite the best attempts of all the media and the libs.

My guess is the public has wised up. We now have Kerry telling everyone we are going to be nuked. Times change.

Most liberal issues now resemble dead ducks.

[Joe Brower]

"Can you hit AR-15.com?"

Sure. What exact forum do you recommend? I can't find anything that looks good since they rearranged everything.

I was supposed to get some paying work done today. So much for that idea! $;-)

[Long Cut]

You make some excellent points. Movies continually show guns, especially "assault weapons", as near-giant killers. Constantly, the Hero-figure in films can be seen whipping out some huge hand cannon or machine gun to blast the Bad Guys with. It's been going on since "Dirty Harry".

With the graboids continually fulminating about "high-powered" guns, "weapons of war", and "weapons of mass destruction" (Don't laugh...it's their latest talking point re: semiautos), the urban or suburban folk with no firearm experience is left with two choices...abjec fear and loathing ("Soccer Moms") or glorification (gangstas and teens).

[Redcloak]

See my reply at 21.

[Long Cut]

Armalite's down right now.

Just look for any forum with a general discussion of gun control. Then, maybe (if allowed), repost it to one of the more well-read topics.

[risk]

Asking Hollywood, the alphabet soup, or the gray lady to consider these polar extremes is unlikely to produce the desired effect. It all relates to my theory that the driving of small, family farmers out of business, and the ballooning of our urban areas is the biggest threat to freedom in this country. City folk grow up without any exposure to the introspection and tradition of suburban life. Guns are just symbols to them.

[hattend]

BTTT

[hattend]

BTTT

[Travis McGee]

The way that it often works is that the actual conspirators are puppet-masters who identify the group or individual who will pull the trigger or place the bomb, and enable them/him to do it. The conspirators provide cash, weapons if required, target information etc and simply allow the fringe group to do what they want to do anyway. After the operation, the conspirators fade back to invisibility, and may even burn their duped operatives.

[Travis McGee]

I would imagine Soros travels and lives with near POTUS levels of security.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Bump

[Travis McGee]

I think our stupid Jews are just JINOs.

They are liberal commie 'rats to the marrow, while their Jewish names are just accidents of birth.

Same with "Catholics" who support partial birth abortion, like K&K.