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She is a "troubled" woman alright.:)
1 posted on 06/04/2004 9:23:42 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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but Pentagon officials refuse all comment, saying that would violate Karpinski's rights under the Privacy Act.

They would however release the records if her name was Linda Tripp.

2 posted on 06/04/2004 9:28:00 AM PDT by glorgau
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So a full bird steals and still gets their star... I'd like to have that one explained to me.


3 posted on 06/04/2004 9:29:17 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (John Kerry - Not the Swiftest Boat in the Delta.)
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The Army is investigating how ?despite the shoplifting report ?she was promoted and placed in command of all the prisons in Iraq.

Gender?

Nah!

5 posted on 06/04/2004 9:32:48 AM PDT by leadpenny
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When is she joining the Kerry campaign with her Mentor Claudia Kennedy, who never met an enemy that wasn't in a US Army uniform.
6 posted on 06/04/2004 9:33:00 AM PDT by dts32041 (What is the exit strategy for Europe and Japan ? - I don't think there was one, we are still there)
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Shoplifting.......theft, is a crime of moral turpitude and that alone should have dumped her!


7 posted on 06/04/2004 9:33:13 AM PDT by Gator113
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The Army is investigating how, despite the shoplifting report, she was promoted and placed in command of all the prisons in Iraq

That is a damned good question.

8 posted on 06/04/2004 9:33:59 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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a military department store or PX at MacDill Air Force Base

The Air Force calls this a BX - not a PX.

9 posted on 06/04/2004 9:35:51 AM PDT by TomServo ("Matthew 6:19 at the half... heh heh, little preacher joke.")
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SHE'S BEING SCAPEGOATED !!!11!!
IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT !11!


10 posted on 06/04/2004 9:36:10 AM PDT by smonk
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I could be wrong but I think that she was one of clinton's affirmative action individuals.


11 posted on 06/04/2004 9:37:25 AM PDT by sport (bttt)
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Here is what David Martin, or anyone, needs to find out:

A. What was the date of the shoplifting charge?
B. The date she pinned on the stars?
C. Why the CofS, Army, did not flag her records between A and B?


12 posted on 06/04/2004 9:37:55 AM PDT by leadpenny
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And there we have "political correctness" coming to its logical conclusion !

Our local newspapers did a big, love-feast story on her-right after the prison scandal broke.(She is or was from Rahway,NJ)

She's a WOMAN ( W-O-M-A-N ) making it in an E......................vil Man's world , and they're picking on her 'cause she's a girl,and NOW has had to send out for extra panty liners,and.....(Music up) W-O-M-A-N !!

I read the IG reports.Her troops were untrained,undisciplined,and poorly led. She herself had never been inside the prison,once she got her "face time" at the completion of remodeling.

But she's a ... WO-MAN !!

W-O-M-A-N.

13 posted on 06/04/2004 9:43:44 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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Oh the many ways my eyes can trick me. Thought I saw "Shoplifting Dogs" and it was a story about velvet paintings.


16 posted on 06/04/2004 9:53:37 AM PDT by jimfree (I can see clearly now.)
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This whole Abu Ghraib thing is sure turning into one helluva condemnation of women in combat.

So, there's your silver lining.

18 posted on 06/04/2004 9:56:34 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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I can almost guarantee the BX or post exchange has pictures of her doing the deed if they have any record at all of the event. I don't buy the tale that she did community service and had nothing on her record.


19 posted on 06/04/2004 9:58:44 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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20 posted on 06/04/2004 10:03:55 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Sources say Karpinski was able to go into counseling and do community service because she was a first-time offender and the dollar amount was so small. That apparently kept the incident out of court records and her service file.

No doubt she self-justified her lying by saying to herself, "If the court records were expunged then it never really happened at all."

Which is, of course, a lie.

24 posted on 06/04/2004 10:34:32 AM PDT by WL-law
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From the article: "Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, who claims she has been made a scapegoat for the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, is the subject of an investigation by the Army Inspector General involving an alleged shoplifting incident in October of 2002,..."

Military "justice" tends to be much faster moving than in civilian life. There are far fewer opportunities for delays which can sometimes help the defendant.

It would be my guess, if there is truth to this report, that the real "target" of the investigation is Karpinski's commanding officer at the time of the original report of the incident. What is being investigated would then be a "coverup" or inappropriate handling by her commanding officer.

If this report is false, then it would be highly damaging to a person's military career and would open up the reporter to financial accountability.

25 posted on 06/04/2004 10:39:58 AM PDT by William Tell (Californians! See "www.rkba.members.sonic.net" to support California RKBA.)
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From the article: "Sources say Karpinski was able to go into counseling and do community service because she was a first-time offender and the dollar amount was so small. "

This doesn't ring true.

A member of the military shoplifting from a PX (or BX) would not be facing civilian justice. This would seem to be a matter entirely within the jurisdiction of military justice.

Military Police would have been called, the facts would have been recorded by them, and the report would be forwarded to Karpinski's commanding officer for further action. The commanding officer would make a determination of what punishment might be appropriate and that would determine what process would be carried out.

For this charge against a full colonel, I can't imagine that there is any option other than exoneration due to lack of evidence or punishment including resignation from the military.

Suggesting that a high-ranking officer can just complete some form of "community service" and then proceed to be responsible for the lives of thousands of soldiers in combat is ridiculous. If her commanding officer chose to believe that she was not guilty, it would have to have been based on a combination of a good record on her part and doubtful circumstances in the report.

Just saying "I forgot that I had put the bottle in my pocket" would not be sufficient to relieve her of accountability for not having paid. There are so many people competing for general's stars that there is little reason to overlook even slight character flaws.

26 posted on 06/04/2004 10:52:47 AM PDT by William Tell (Californians! See "www.rkba.members.sonic.net" to support California RKBA.)
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caught shoplifting a $22 bottle of perfume....

She needs a lot more than perfume. .....a helluva lot more.

34 posted on 06/04/2004 11:24:22 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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$22 perfume? She uses the cheap stuff.


40 posted on 06/04/2004 2:14:25 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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