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NJ bans `ladies nights,' citing gender discrimination
New York Daily News/Kentucky.com ^ | 6-2-04 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 06/02/2004 8:24:24 PM PDT by SJackson

(KRT) - Sorry, Jersey girls.

The Garden State's top civil rights official ruled yesterday that ladies nights are gender-based promotions that discriminate - against men.

So from now on, girls who just wanna have fun will have to pay the same price for drinks and cover charges as the boys.

Commercial interests do not override the "important social policy objective of eradicating discrimination," said Frank Vespa-Papaleo, director of the state Division on Civil Rights.

Gov. Jim McGreevey criticized the decision, calling it "an overreaction that reflects a complete lack of common sense and good judgment."

But the governor does not have the authority to rescind the ruling. Nonetheless, he met with the state attorney general to tell him the civil rights division had better things to do with its time, an aide said.

In New York, a state Division of Human Rights spokeswoman said officials have had complaints about ladies nights and found them "to be unlawful."

Elsewhere, it's a mixed bag.

Iowa judges have said a racetrack's ladies day was illegal. And Pennsylvania's high court ruled strip joints can't let women in free but make men pay. But courts in Illinois and Washington State have not objected.

Blame the Jersey ban on a disgruntled dude, David Gillespie, who filed the complaint in June 1998 after he had to pony up $5 to get into the Coastline restaurant in Cherry Hill, N.J. Not only were women not charged admission, they drank at a discount.

The Coastline's lawyer argued they weren't trying to keep men out but hoping to lure women in.

Vespa-Papaleo disagreed. "It's the same as if you tried to say Christians can have free drinks but Jews can't," he told the Philadelphia Inquirer.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; andronazis; ladiesnight
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1 posted on 06/02/2004 8:24:25 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Since when has drunken women been a discrimination against men?


2 posted on 06/02/2004 8:26:38 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: SJackson

The feminazis should celebrate. The girls will pay the same tab as the boys. End Sexism In Drink Tabs Now!!!


3 posted on 06/02/2004 8:27:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The feminazis should celebrate. The girls will pay the same tab as the boys.

More likely the boys will be picking up BOTH tabs.

4 posted on 06/02/2004 8:28:22 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: SJackson
""It's the same as if you tried to say Christians can have free drinks but Jews can't," he told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "

If I were a Jewish salesman trying to sell plastic Jesus dash ornaments to Christians I wouldn't object.

Only a low downer would object to luring single women into a bar and getting them drunk.

5 posted on 06/02/2004 8:31:31 PM PDT by bayourod (Kerry has no track record in negotiating with foreign nations, nor does Sec of State Sharpton)
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To: SJackson

That's right by God. We can't have women wondering around with an extra five dollars. They'll pay that tab as an equal opportunity bill and they'll like it! :)


6 posted on 06/02/2004 8:31:40 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: goldstategop

The sex-obsessed leftists will actually hate this one.


7 posted on 06/02/2004 8:31:49 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: SJackson

When I read stories like this I laugh, yet I can't help but wonder that Governor McGreedy is a moron.


8 posted on 06/02/2004 8:34:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: SJackson

What a moron. Everyone knows that the purpose of ladies' night is to attract women, so as to attract men. It's how bars make money.


9 posted on 06/02/2004 8:36:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: Jeff Chandler

There's women at bars??!!??? As soon as I find my wallet, I'm out the door!!!


10 posted on 06/02/2004 8:37:48 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: SJackson
I gave a friend of mine who has close contacts with the restaurant industry in New Jersey a suggestion of how to get around this very stupid decision. Each bar can announce that it will count its customers on Thursday night by male/female. In order to "increase its patronage," it will then offer half-priced drinks to whichever category is under-represented in the Thursday survey, on Friday night.

Since either sex may be "underrepresented" on Tursday night, there is no discrimination in this offer. Of course, reality will probably rear its ugly head. Women will be on the down side on Thursday. And "Ladies Night" will be back in an entirely logical.

Problem solved.

Congressman Billybob

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11 posted on 06/02/2004 8:39:21 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
What a moron. Everyone knows that the purpose of ladies' night is to attract women, so as to attract men. It's how bars make money.

Precisely. There was no discrimination in the first place.

12 posted on 06/02/2004 8:39:56 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: SJackson

It's nice that the courts have finally seen the light and declared affirmative action illegal. Oh, my bad, this only applies to you and me, not the gov't.


13 posted on 06/02/2004 8:41:10 PM PDT by RagingBull
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To: SJackson

New Jersey needs to pass a law requiring that men remove their penis prior to entering places where women are. So everything is "fair".....


14 posted on 06/02/2004 8:42:37 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
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To: isthisnickcool

Sometimes I think Dem men (or the women in their lives) have already, er, removed THAT part of their anatomy!


15 posted on 06/02/2004 8:45:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Countries around the world are ALIENATING ME...an American!)
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To: goldstategop
Oh please!
As if anyone female under 46 even knows a certified, charter NOW member!
Womens suffrage movements still fight on.
Call it a society in flux.
Do not forget the basic civil human rights that women paid massive amounts of blood for.
16 posted on 06/02/2004 8:46:34 PM PDT by sarasmom (Sometimes, I wish liberals had beliefs, so I could desecrate them. (spok))
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To: SJackson

So when will they eliminate racial quotas in the university? Oops, I just committed a hate crime!


17 posted on 06/02/2004 8:47:58 PM PDT by ikka
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To: BigSkyFreeper
'Wanna have some FUN!!??--start a 'Pol's Night, when all Drinks to Politicians are 1/2 Price!

Then, watch the Political Fuss!!

Doc

18 posted on 06/02/2004 8:49:19 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: SJackson

On the TV a few minutes ago, relating this story, there was shown a bar booth of six or so ladies. Now I can understand why the prices are lower on "Ladies Night". Of course the pictures were taken a few hours before the 2:00 AM closing time when as I remember all the ladies were beautiful and virtuous.


19 posted on 06/02/2004 8:50:39 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: SJackson; All
Dumb me. I thought the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) was never ratified. I was unaware that it is now a part of the Constitution.

Funny how things like that just slip by.

20 posted on 06/02/2004 8:52:38 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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