Posted on 06/01/2004 1:28:32 PM PDT by abigail2
The Fall Of Islam
Surely, Allah has purchased of the believers their persons and their property in return for the Garden they shall have; they fight in the cause of Allah, and they slay and are slain…- Qur’An 9:111
I know when it happened. On September 11th, 2001, fanatical followers of a religion America was just beginning to accept struck a blow they hoped would lead to our destruction. In striking that blow, they revealed their hand. And America stepped back and began to take a more sober view of the religion that sanctioned the wanton murder of thousands.
Before the PR disaster-in-the-making spun too far out of hand, our President quickly stepped forward and called Islam a “religion of peace.” To the ears of many, it sounded too much like Orwell’s ironically named “Ministry of Peace.” Or more bluntly, it was a crock and most Americans knew it.
But it was a crock we thought we should live with, because how could we blame a religion with millions of adherents for 9-11? It seemed unfair, and dangerous to America’s and the world’s safety.
Besides, the President knew that Arab Muslims had us over a barrel (literally). If we wanted to keep fueling our SUVs, it was best not to insult the man’s religion, know what I mean?
Yet nearly three years later, many brave Americans have died fighting an unnamed enemy. We pretend we are fighting “terrorists”. In reality, we are fighting what many believe is a fraudulent religion with the systematic slaughter and forced conversion of millions in its wake.
Why do so many consider the religion itself a fraud? It’s not just its bloodthirsty and contradictory teachings, or the questionable character of its founder. Look at its history, fraught with violence and intimidation. And look at its fruit today—terrorism everywhere, with barely a protest anywhere to the most barbaric actions of its practitioners.
In short, whatever moral capital Islam may have had began to evaporate on September 11th. The events since then have done nothing to buff its image, quite the contrary actually.
I believe history will record that the silver lining to September 11th was its role in beginning to unmask “the religion of peace.” The Nick Berg beheading and the resulting silence from the Muslim world may have provided the coupe de grace.
Islam will continue to grow by violent means. It will continue to appeal to the angry, the disaffected, those looking to even a score. But for all practical purposes, Islam is dead among those who are awake. And that is a very good thing.
Does that mean that well-meaning people cannot be followers of Islam? No, it doesn’t mean that. But I believe they have been by and large brainwashed into believing a lie. We owe them the truth and our support if desired.
Do we need to continue our fight against Islamic terrorism? Absolutely. But this fight must start with honest talk. Muslim terrorists are disciples of Muhammad and the religion’s “holy” books. They murder because their holy books tell them to. They behead their enemy because their holy books tell them to. They force their religion on others because their holy books tell them to.
Let’s face it, the President has already played his hand. Regarding “the religion of peace”, for better or worse it’s his story and he’s sticking to it. It is up to the people to demand honest talk and action from our leaders, and we must accurately name this enemy before we effectively fight and subdue it.
We absolutely must end our dependence on Arab Muslim oil. Material independence makes independence of thought and speech much easier to carry out!
And we must allow “the religion of peace” to die of its own self-inflicted wounds, less we are willing—out of our own moral cowardice—to let it kill us.
©2004 Patrick Rooney
Patrick Rooney is the Director of Special Projects at BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, a nonprofit organization dedicated to “Rebuilding the Family By Rebuilding the Man.”
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Bump and thanks!
Equate them to the Germans during WWII. Not all Germans were Nazis. Many Germans were good people. Some got suckered in by propoganda. Many were similarly apathetic to the persecution of the Jews. Some dissenters were summarily executed and the rest remained silent.
Today, Germany is quite different. It took a massive war and many sacrifices to sort them out and welcome them back to civilization. Although another undertaking is necessary to defeat the Islamofacists, that doesn't mean every Muslim is evil.
Regarding compulsion and Islam, you're naive. For every verse you can find in the Koran that supposedly preaches non-compulsion, you can find many that command its followers to kill the Infidels. And what good fruit has this bloodthirsty "religion" borne? Open your eyes before it is too late for you and your country. Are you a Muslim or just an apologist?
I doubt if ALL MUSLIMS obey the Koran!
Read some John Locke!
John Locke (1632-1704), The Philosopher of Freedom.
http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Biographies/Philosophy/Locke.htm
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/locke/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=john+locke
Bump.
Islam is not defendable to some extent but freedom of its believers is.
Sorry my friend, no offense but:
America is the symbol of democracy and freedom to many people of the world. The idea of killing/destroying whoever that disagree us is UN-AMERICAN.
I'm not for killing them, I'm for containing them. Stop immigration from the Middle East except by those seeking religious freedom from Islam --- for excample Muslims who no longer wish to be Muslims who face the death penalty for trying to change, and we should stop the spread of Islam. Help countries trying to defend themselves against it.
Then those are MINOS --- muslims in name only. Not all muslims are bad just as not all Christians and Jews are good.
That's a good analogy --- not all Arabs are Muslims just like all Germans weren't Nazis, probably some Nazis were not completely evil just as all Muslims aren't --- some Nazis were good to their wives and kids, were probably friendly neighbors --- just as some Muslims are. Some Nazis just went along with everything because they would have been too afraid to defy their leaders. And when it was all over, many tried to deny they ever were Nazis.
Not only more diverse, but less dependent on government as individuals in a time of great crisis. If the nation is hit again by the crazies, there is no question in my mind what the consequence will be. The people of America will revert to their independence mode and, of necessity, re-contract with each other for their mutual safety and survival as individuals and groups.
And they will do whatever it takes to insure we will never take another hit. If the Islamics in the U.S. had the presense of mind to analyze the true sentiment against Islam across the nation today, they would be converting their assets before another incident and heading for the border for their own safety.
It would not be intelligent to view the attitudes of only the enablers and liberals amongst us, or the media, to gauge our passivity and acceptance of a tit for tat battle. Across racial lines and true religions, we are more joined than anyone can imagine.
Tired of my sign-off line,eh? LOL
Yeah- Allah wanting everyone not Muslim dead IS tiresome, isn't it? True tho- right there in the old Koran.
Islam isn't being 'hijacked'- it's being revealed and clarified.
See- that is the crux of the matter: To be a 'moderate' Muslim one must ignore all those parts of their holy book that call for world domination and brutality. A moderate Muslim is a bad Muslim.
To ignore the 'bad' parts of the Bible doesn't make one a bad Christian. We don't have mad monks and jihad ministers going around KILLING people who want to leave Christianity or who fail to follow ALL of the Bible.Islam does- and the mullahs aren't stopping it, are they?
The Bible isn't an instruction manual for cruelty and brutality- especially not the New Testament.The Koran is.
Christians who are obeying the Bible word for word aren't terrorizing the world- Muslims who obey the Koran that way ARE!
If every Christian in the world obeyed the Bible word for word, and every Muslim obeyed the Koran the same way which would be more brutal and oppressive?
You know the answer. You see the point, you just refuse to admit it.
Everything I- and countless others- need or want to know about Islam, we learned on 9-11.
Muslims have to deal with that. If they don't like it- CHANGE the face of Islam, or live and be judged by it.
Jesus Loves You. Allah Wants You Dead.
I'm tired of that Allah part- a lot of the world is too.
What's the difference whether someone's a good muslim, bad muslim, ...who cares? why is it any of your business? And who made you the judge over the convictions of their religious beliefs? It's their choice what they want to believe, what they want to disbelieve. You seem to think that it's important for muslims to be labeled good or bad. NONE of this is the POINT. It's no more important than labeling a Christian good or bad. The only thing that matters, is who the extremists and terrorists are. That's it. Whatever anyone else wants to call themselves; traditional, moderate, not so moderate, blue, orange, conservative, ...who the heck cares? As long as they do it peacefully, it's no one's business. Let them pray to crickets if they want. Last time I checked this was still America.
Do you seriously think you're informing me of anything regarding Christianity or the Bible? Well, you're not. I learned all you said by the time I was 10. I know the Bible is about love ...I don't have a problem loving muslims, or people of any other religion, race, etc.
You do.
I'm not letting terrorists color my view of all muslims. If that's what you need to do, that's your problem.
Don't talk to me about 9/11....'nough said.
Why is it so hard for you and others to understand?
If there are 50 examples of the Koran saying something bad, to every 1 example of it saying something good, but the majority of people believe the good part, and choose to ignore the bad parts, why is it any of your business that that's the way they choose to practice their religion?
What if the entire book was four letter curse words except for one page that said 'love', and the majority of followers chose to ignore the whole thing except that one word? Is that your business?
Apologist? There nothing for me to apologise for.
If I were muslim, would that be a problem for you? Think maybe Jim should ban all muslims from FR?
" Don't they use the same Koran, and how are there moderate congregations versus radical congregations? It's all the same religion, they all follow Mohammad."
You've got to be kidding. And how many different Christian sects are there when they all use the Bible and Jesus as a foundation? Some sects are a lot more conservative or strict than others. Been to a church with a lesbian minister? Been to church where they believe in the gospels but don't much talk about the new testament and stress the old testamnet instead? How about sects that don't allow dancing? or card playing? They're all using the same book.
"Hurled" is your take on it. People can "hurl" that word in my direction all day. I don't get defensive about it; I don't have a problem with that word.
I don't think Kerry makes much sense at all. But I don't think it really matters to him if he does....as long as he gets votes.
I see you agree that terrorism and beheading is part of the bad parts of Islam. It is the bad parts that define this belief system not as a religion, but as an anti-civilization death cult.
So what I hear you saying is that we should ignore the bad and accept the good. Right? But terrorism and murder is part of the fruits of Islam, Right? Shouldn't we make judgements according the fruits? A good tree will not bear evil fruit, and an evil tree will not bear good fruit. Know them by their fruits.
What other modern-day 'religion' is video-taping human sacrifices these days?
You're 180 degrees off. If you read the rest of that paragraph, it says, "The only thing that matters, is who the extremists and terrorists are. That's it." Why? because those are people we're at war with. That's the enemy.
You might want to go back and read my other posts from yesterday.
It's not up to anyone to "judge" another's religion. As I've repeated, as long as they practice it peacefully and don't harm anyone else, it's no one's business. Our business is the terrorists. Those are the people videotaping murders. (They are not "sacrifices")
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