Posted on 05/31/2004 12:39:29 PM PDT by softengine
An ugly tug of war is raging over the fate of a 6-year-old boy being raised by a gay couple who won custody of the child in a landmark decision in 2000.
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There are, and yes, the kids are removed or the perp is removed from the home.
My fear for the child is that this case will be handled in a politically correct manner further putting this little boy at risk.
Someone has abused the child and it must be investigated. Whether the guardians are homosexual or heterosexual and arguing in a tit-for-tat manner is absurd while this boy is in real pain emotionally and mentally. The child's excessive acting out is telling.
Lastly let me add, that if you folks from DU want to come to our table and join us in a debate with the goal of reaching real solutions to problems facing us all, then you are welcome. If all you can, or want, to do is throw out insipid barbs meant to inflame then run away, then you are not welcome. Do you understand?
Agreed.
Get bent! Homosexuality is an unnatural perversion no matter what type of adults abuse children.
If you aren't a DU-er, please accept my apology.
Which makes this all the more digusting because I believe the judge is giving a pass ONLY because it is homosexuals and any reputable expert will find there is a problem which required the judge remove the child. Without the expert, the judge can do whatever she wants. With the expert, her hands will be tied.
I am not quite sure what you mean by run away but since I am still here and obviously not throwing insipid barbs, I will explain further.
First, sexual and physical abuse occurs at the same rate in all types of households; gay, straight, atheist, Muslim, Christian, black, white, liberal and even conservative.
Therefore, you cannot make a judgment as to what type of household would a child be more likely or less likely abused.
Secondly, I am not defending the gay couple in this story. If there is strong evidence of abuse the child should be removed, an investigation conducted and if found guilty these two should be locked in a cage for the next 99 years.
I would hope you would expect same be done to like offenders gay or straight.
Last, I have a cousin that is gay and in a monogamous relationship for years. I have another cousin that is straight but has a major alcohol problem. If I had to choose between the alcoholic cousin or gay cousin to raise a child I would pick he gay one without reservations.
Can I propose a horrible hypothetical situation to you?
A 10 year old male is molested by a gay man and a ten year old female is molested by a straight man, both are caught and prosecuted.
Should once receive a lighter sentence than the other or should both be locked up for the rest of their lives?
Each of them has told me that they would not only vote Republican but donate to their candidates if the GOP simply had a libertarian attitude toward gays. They do not want special privileges and have every reason to be Conservative except that the Republicans condemn their lifestyle.
I believe allowing gays to raise children is itself child abuse. It is a horrible thing to raise a chld with no sense of morality.
FReegards...MUD
The GOP is not for sale. Besides, don't you think most child molesters, beaters, theives, adulterers, -- or whatever deviant behavior you want to fill in the blank -- are people who many people know and like on some level? They frequently have jobs, familes, friends, might be well educated and even have disposable income. One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. I seem to recall that Ted Bundy was a very smart and charming person. He just also happened to be a serial murderer. What a person is at their worst colors what they are at their best.
You are incorrect. Sexual abuse occures at an abnormaly higher rate with homosexuals than any other group.
As has been often refernce to sources posted here, most homosexuals had their first sexual encounter UNDER the age of 18. Sexual abuse is not a "same as" issue. Homosexuals are a greater danger to children. Conseder that homosexuals are defined by their chosen sex act, that alone will have detrimental effects on a child.
In this case you have a child who is being told by his "father" and his father's sex partner that they made him as one would buy a new set of shoes. The mother is saying that he was born as a result of a love relationship. It is obvious the mother's version will lead to a healther life view for the child.
The article also glosses over the fact that the surrogate argument was obviously rejected by the courts as she has custody and if the contract had been accepted the mother would have been sumarily removed from the child's life.
There is also the recent New Zeland study which observed teh children of lesbian couples. If found abnormal development was the routine result of that environment for children. girls were promiscuous, boys were sexually confused and withdrawn socially.
If anything the dangers faced by children in homosexual environments should expand prohibitions of homosexuals adopting children and even engaging in the artificial production of children. Society as a whole benefits much better when the policy is to have normal mother father environments rather than alternative sexstyles as a child rearing environment.
If your homosexuals want to garner support for the GOP they can come out with MONEY and publicity to openly support the Federal Marriage Amendment.
There is a long held adage that goes like this: "Loyalty is as it is found." The term loyalty can be swapped out for other terms, such as....respect, hospitality, fair treatment. Food for thought....
And I apologized for the DU comment. Reread the posts to you.
pete anderson wrote:
I wonder if there are any straight parents have kids that display some of the same aggressions as this child?
Which Republicans? Not the politicians. Now, the evidence of this thread is that the GOP rank and file includes some (verbal) gay bashers. But an swful lot of Dems dislike gays also, although the metropolitan types know they are not supposed to say it in public.
I have no idea about the justice in this specific case. But in general I think that two men raising a child is highly risky, even more so than with a single illegitmate mother raising a child. Sadly, the judge may have had no good choice in this case -- or the judge could be the politically correct gay rights fanatic most of those here suspect.
I'm a Jew in a Christian country, and this is analogous to the postion of homosexuals in any country. Most Republicans, and Democrats, don't condemn Judaism, but a lot of them sure do think I am making an intellectual and moral mistake in not accepting Jesus. If I would refuse to be a Republican for this reason, it would be my problem, not the party's.
pete anderson wrote:
Can I propose a horrible hypothetical situation to you?
A 10 year old male is molested by a gay man and a ten year old female is molested by a straight man, both are caught and prosecuted.
Should once receive a lighter sentence than the other or should both be locked up for the rest of their lives?
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