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Parents challenge restrictions on home schooling
newsday.com ^ | May 30, 2004 | KATHY HENNESSY

Posted on 05/31/2004 5:54:39 AM PDT by LadyShallott

TRENTON, N.J. -- Public education bored Tim Haas, so he and his wife decided they were better suited to care for and educate their two sons than the state. But Haas and the thousands of other New Jersey families that homeschool now face what they say is an unnecessary and unfair intrusion by the same state regulators they tried to escape. A bill in the New Jersey Legislature would require home-schooled children to get state-mandated annual physical exams and take standardized tests required of public school children.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: benny; homeschool; homeschoolers; homeschoollist; newjersey; nj; timhaas
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1 posted on 05/31/2004 5:54:39 AM PDT by LadyShallott
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To: 4everontheRight; netmilsmom; GOPrincess; Sam's Army; Izzy Dunne; TontoKowalski; *Homeschool_list

2 posted on 05/31/2004 5:56:58 AM PDT by LadyShallott ("An armed society is a polite society."~Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: 2Jedismom

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3 posted on 05/31/2004 5:57:22 AM PDT by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: TxBec

I certainly believe in home schooling in some extreme cases BUT the better way is to CHANGE THE SCHOOLS".


4 posted on 05/31/2004 5:59:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: LadyShallott

These people have done such a great job with public school. Why shouldn't they intrude on home schools?</sarcasm>


5 posted on 05/31/2004 6:00:26 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Third parties serve only to kill what they claim to promote and promote what they claim to oppose.)
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To: LadyShallott; Coleus; SpookBrat

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6 posted on 05/31/2004 6:04:16 AM PDT by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Sacajaweau

I have changed the schools. My kids no longer attend.


7 posted on 05/31/2004 6:07:08 AM PDT by TxBec (Tag! You're it!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Tried changing your schools lately? The International Bacalaureate Program has invaded our school courtesy of our gay superintendent.


8 posted on 05/31/2004 6:09:46 AM PDT by tioga
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To: LadyShallott

iSlamic school should be considered child abuse.


9 posted on 05/31/2004 6:11:36 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: Sacajaweau
I certainly believe in home schooling in some extreme cases BUT the better way is to CHANGE THE SCHOOLS".

Forget to take your meds this morning?

11 posted on 05/31/2004 6:26:34 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: LadyShallott
But these standardized tests are NOT given to private schools. My understanding is that the NJEA (New Jersey Extortion Association) objected because the private school students score much better!

This is a piece of legislation to help one of the largest unions in the state that is very politically active for those who share their Socialist, Hate America views!
12 posted on 05/31/2004 6:29:36 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Sacajaweau

In actuality, we who homeschool are working to change the schools. It is the free enterprise system at work. The product they put out is inferior, therefore, I take my child out of it. They district no longer gets my money (although the state does) If enough parents take this route, the schools will change. They must. When my daughters beat the crap out of the public school kids (academically) along with the other HS kids, people take notice. Eventually the schools will change to keep up.

However, right now I have one chance with my children to make them fine adults with a good education. I will educate them now and change the schools by example later.


13 posted on 05/31/2004 6:32:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (The Libs prefer to silence than debate.-Political Junkie Too)
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To: LadyShallott
One of the many responsibilities of a parent is to educate their children. Another is to participate in the advancement of the community. We are not obligated to preside over the decline of a portion of society. Our schools are in decline.

Life is not a contest to be played out with our children. Nor is life's goal to level the playing field for all participants. Bad schools level the field, good schools educate the children. If the public schools help you as a parent, use them. Else, be a parent and do the right thing.
14 posted on 05/31/2004 6:33:28 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (DNC stands for Divide N Conquer)
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To: leprechaun9

Wouldn't it be something if homeschooled students took those tests and did so well that they really made the public schools look bad? I believe that happened in Arizona. The homeschoolers made public schools look so bad that the legislature did away with testing them altogether.


15 posted on 05/31/2004 6:35:01 AM PDT by ladylib
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The smugness of home-schoolers is fun to watch, parents sending their kids to public school are committing child abuse......just kidding...


16 posted on 05/31/2004 6:41:37 AM PDT by dakine
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To: LadyShallott
The education establishment pretends homeschoolers merely prefer to do their school work from home. It's kind of like an adult wanting to wrok from home for the same comany rather than than running their own business from home.

Homeschoolers generally don't want an equivalent education to one they could get in a public school; they want a better education. They want better course material, they want the liberty to work on the course material at their preferred pace, and they don't want to be forced to take a test that requires them to be indoctrinated with the same socialist-statist propaganda the public schools churn out.

They generally don't mind taking a test that actually tests knowledge and competence in the academic subjects they cover, but they strongly object to tests that require them to take the same inferior public school courses just to pass the test.

You see, many tests today test political attitude as much as academics and in some cases more so.

17 posted on 05/31/2004 6:42:41 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Sacajaweau

"I certainly believe in home schooling in some extreme cases BUT the better way is to CHANGE THE SCHOOLS"

It is impossible to change public schools. People have been trying for the past 30 years.

When my sister-in-law who taught math and science (and one time developed curriculum for the county) in the same Maryland district her daughter attended school had absolutely no influence with school officials over choosing a decent math curriculum, you know that parental input is not appreciated.


18 posted on 05/31/2004 6:46:42 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: leprechaun9
This is a piece of legislation to help one of the largest unions in the state that is very politically active for those who share their Socialist, Hate America views!

How would it help them? Wouldn't home school kids outscore public school kids, making the unionized teachers look bad?

I am all for homeschool. This law is clearly aimed not at homeschoolers, but at the small minority using false claims that they homeschool as a dodge to not educate their children at all. Those abused children who are not public-schooled, not private-schooled, and NOT homeschooled deserve our compassion. If this isn't the way to identify them, suggest another.

19 posted on 05/31/2004 6:46:50 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: savedbygrace

wrok = work


20 posted on 05/31/2004 6:48:37 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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