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Dalai Lama Laments Abuse of Iraqi Prisoners
Reuters News Service ^ | May 30, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 05/30/2004 6:00:12 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker

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To: mtg

No. Not even close.


41 posted on 05/30/2004 7:11:42 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Looks like every holier than thou, pious SOB on planet earth wants to get a lick in.

Hey World! The 280 or so million citizens that make up these United States of America are human beings, just like the rest of you. We have a lot of rules and regulations that most of us adhere to, and a conscience that we listen to, that keeps us from doing in secret, nothing that we would not do in public.

We have a number of weak citizens, a number of evil citizens and our share of people who cannot be trusted or depended upon to do the right thing all the time.

A few of those people that can't be trusted, seem to have wound up together at that prison and have brought shame upon themselves and embarrassed the rest of us. They will be tried and dealt a sentence befitting their actions-that's how we do it here.

We will not allow those who despise America and root for victory by the terrorists, to define American's as a whole by the actions of a few bad apples. The war on terror will be carried on until victory is achieved and terrorists are de-fanged and netralized. Our cause is just, our honor is intact and our course is unalterable.

You are either with us or you are with the terrorists.




42 posted on 05/30/2004 7:14:22 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Every functional brain in America is a threat to John the Babbelist's Presidential aspirations.)
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To: TrueBeliever9
I think you must have the wrong nation.

First, Buddhist monks (not priests) are celibate. All of them. In fact, they did not even allow women in the residence of the Dali Lama after dark.

Further, virtually no-one from outside (or even inside) China is allowed to visit Tibet.

To be honest with you, knowing several Buddhists very well, I hope you have the wrong country, because the only other alternative i that someone told you a very viscous lie.
43 posted on 05/30/2004 7:16:44 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: Graybeard58
Dalai Lama my arse. I know Johnny Carson when I see him.



HEYOOOOO! Ho ho ho ho ho.....

44 posted on 05/30/2004 7:17:04 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

In a rare photo, the late Louis Armstrong is seen playing a unique rendition of the famous show tune Hello Dalai.


45 posted on 05/30/2004 7:18:38 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: sharktrager

This nurse, as were some other American nurses, were recruited to Tibet to teach nursing. She was very up and above board and not a liar. She was a Christian and she was held to very strict rules and regulations. She even had to dress in their style clothing (which she had brought to the luncheon to show us)! She had photos of the homes with the objects (some looked like wind chimes) used to ward off evil or to help women conceive. There is a great deal of witchcraft in Buddhisim to this day. I assure you I have the right country and this was in 1986. I remember it very well as I am not incapacitated and I am not incapacitated now!


46 posted on 05/30/2004 7:31:15 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Yeah I just heard Ren & Stimpy, Charlie Mansion, Huge Hefner, Ronald McDonald, The Doublemint Twins, John Gotti, the baboons at the Washington Zoo, Eddie Haskell, Fritz the Cat, Jimmy Piersall, Jeffrey the three-toed dogboy and his sidekick the lobster man, Lassie and Mr. Ed are also shocked and deeply saddened.

That ought to wrap it up. The U.S. sucks the big one I'm going to join a cargo cult in Bali. Sheesh, let's all pile on. Meanwhile hundreds are put to death everyday in the counties high on the UN top-ten favorites list and nobody says a word.

47 posted on 05/30/2004 7:31:39 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: sharktrager

Save your breath.


48 posted on 05/30/2004 7:42:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Even a Beirut, Lebanon newspaper says that, compared to what Saddam did, the American Abu Ghraib "atrocities" are a joke.

Get with the program, Dolly.

49 posted on 05/30/2004 8:23:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Buddhism is not Satanic you dolt! The present Dalai Lama is a great man of peace but not when it comes to commenting on US foreign policy. But then neither is the Pope (or whoever is speaking in his name out of the Vatican)


50 posted on 05/30/2004 8:28:41 PM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: TrueBeliever9

The problem I have with your nurses story is that Tibet has been ruled by China for years, and the Buddhist monks there have been suppressed and even imprisoned for most of their lifetimes.

Any misbehavior of the type she describes would be quickly reported to and punished by the authorities. The Chinese communists would make a big point of publicizing it too, to weaken and discredit the Buddhists. I have seen quite a few "documentaries" produced by the communists alleging just thie kind of thing you describe, BEFORE the modernizing Chinese came.

As for superstitions in Tibet "to this very day", I have no doubt it's true, and I can say the very same thing about the United States of America, where more people that beleive in astrology than in any other system of belief, including Christianity.


51 posted on 05/30/2004 8:43:27 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: John Valentine
The problem I have with your nurses story is that Tibet has been ruled by China for years, and the Buddhist monks there have been suppressed and even imprisoned for most of their lifetimes.

You can have a problem with it; while I don't appreciate being called a liar Mr. Valentine - the story is true and I stand by it.

52 posted on 05/30/2004 10:06:35 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: TrueBeliever9

I never meant to call you a liar, and I didn't. I'm sure you know a nurse and she told you stories about her adventures. How you characterize these stories can be mistaken without being a lie. Lying is intentional and often malicious, and I make no such accusation against you.

I do believe that you weren't there nor do you claim to have been. I know for a fact that stories passed from one to another nearly always are transformed in small ways that can add up. Also, memories can evolve over time.

Bhutan or Nepal become Tibet, for example. Maybe she told you about working among Tibetan refugees. Can you swear that this isn't the case?

You also make no mention whatever of when this all took place. That bears very much on the weight the story carries. If this all took place back in the 1930's for example it would mean little as an illustration of life in Tibet today.

And, are you saying that this woman was working as a foreigner in communist China in one of their most sensitive areas where foreigners were not even allowed to travel at all until very recently?

You will have to excuse me for expressing skepticism about the details of your post without immediately taking umbrage and accusing me of calling you a liar.

Signed

Dorje Chotrin
(aka John Valentine)


53 posted on 05/30/2004 10:25:42 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: John Valentine
And, are you saying that this woman was working as a foreigner in communist China in one of their most sensitive areas where foreigners were not even allowed to travel at all until very recently?

I stated that the nurse gave her presentation in 1986; she had been there for one year (as was her contract).

http://omni.cc.purdue.edu/~wtv/tibet/history10.html

This person was there in 1988! Here is his excerpt from the Purdue website. As far as I can observe during my trip to Tibet in 1988, there are very few Han in Tibet. In fact, in Tibet (proper), there are only 2 millions people with some 70,000 non-Tibetan (including soldiers). There are at least 10 different subraces in the Greater Tibet (a term not commonly used, including Qinghai, parts of Szechuan and Yunnan, corresponding to Tibet Dynasty). Most of the subraces have been there for tens of centuries and probably were the natives of the land before the Tibetans immigrating to there. Out of a total population of some 13 millions, 3.8 millions (some western writters like to use a figure of 6 millions) are Tibetans , 2 % are Han (somewhere around 200,000 people including soldiers), the rest are Moslems, Mongolians, Turks, Tu, Baiyi, Yi etc. Some propagandists counted them as `Chinese migrations', and concluded wrongly that there were more `Chinese' than Tibetans in the land of Tibet. It was unreasonable to re-build Tibet Dynasty in today's world, just as to re-build a Serb dominating Yugoslavia. This was an irrationality of `Tibet Independent Movement' as proposed which includes Qinghai, parts of Szechuan and Yunnan.

So some people with the right Karma were going and coming from Tibet!

54 posted on 05/30/2004 11:20:49 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Like this corndog has any credibility whatsoever. This is the same Dolly Llama who was selling high church positions to the likes of Steven Seagal and other Hollywood celebrities who decided to join the religion 5 minutes before.


55 posted on 05/31/2004 4:43:57 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken...)
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