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Dalai Lama Laments Abuse of Iraqi Prisoners
Reuters News Service ^ | May 30, 2004 | Reuters

Posted on 05/30/2004 6:00:12 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker

LONDON (Reuters) - The Dalai Lama said on Monday he had been shocked by U.S. soldiers abusing prisoners in Iraq's notorious Abu Ghraib prison, according to Britain's Guardian newspaper.

"America generally we consider a champion of liberty, justice -- these things -- so then for something such as this to happen, we regard as shocking," said the exiled leader of Tibet's Buddhists.

The aging monk is on a week-long visit to Britain, drawing large crowds to his lectures, but he will not meet Prime Minister Tony Blair.

He said Tibetans had much experience of abuse at the hands of their Chinese occupiers: "A lot of torture, a lot of abuse, sexual abuse."

Chinese troops imposed Communist rule on Tibet in 1950 and the Dalai Lama fled nine years later after a failed uprising. China claims Tibet as part of its territory and accuses the Buddhist monk of separatist activities.

Photographs and videotapes of the abuse at Abu Ghraib prison have battered President Bush's election-year approval ratings, alienated public sentiment in the Arab world and even sparking protests from allies in the U.S.-led coalition.

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05/30/2004 20:20


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dalailama; iraqipow; pom
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To: familyop

He travels over here a lot; he's a big name on the liberal guest lists and a regular in Hollywood. I guess he likes the free meals.


21 posted on 05/30/2004 6:29:04 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

He likes to laugh a lot too.


22 posted on 05/30/2004 6:30:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

I'm sure it's just because he's constantly in mourning over his repressed people back home.


23 posted on 05/30/2004 6:32:10 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: zencat
I thought there was no right and wrong in Buddhism as well as no self.

You need to do a little more reading. Buddhism is not a "new age" religion. The concept of right behavior is pretty close to Christian values in such things as "Love your Neighbor", value of chastity in monks, prohibitions on alcohol, theft, envy, adultry, murder, honesty, equality, etc.

24 posted on 05/30/2004 6:32:47 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
"America generally we consider a champion of liberty, justice -- these things -- so then for something such as this to happen, we regard as shocking,"

Whereas, since we generally consider Arabs and Muslims to be barbarians and savages, we are never shocked to hear of any new atrocity committed by Arabs or Muslims, so we don't need to mention it. Of course the fact that speaking out against Arab atrocities could possibly be dangerous, it is far safer to mouth off about the one country in the world that had the courage or will to do something.

I wonder if His Holiness knows how racist he sounds when he says something like that.

25 posted on 05/30/2004 6:34:38 PM PDT by giotto
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I attended a lunch with an American nurse, who having been in Tibet teaching nursing at a school, was asked to speak to us. She told us that the Tibet priests could show up at homes, at anytime, and demand to have sex with the wife, daughter or son (no matter the age)! The husband or parents could not protest! Many nurses complained to her about the priest visiting their homes when they went home on vacation and demanding that they (the student nurses) drink the priest's urine in their presence as a test of loyality. Thousands of young boys are taken from their homes, placed in the Buddhists schools and used for the priest's pleasure!

The Dalai Lama and Richard Gere no doubt do not object to these practices!

26 posted on 05/30/2004 6:35:47 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: JimSEA
You need to do a little more reading. Buddhism is not a "new age" religion. The concept of right behavior is pretty close to Christian values in such things as "Love your Neighbor", value of chastity in monks, prohibitions on alcohol, theft, envy, adultery, murder, honesty, equality, etc. I've read volumes. Sunyata man - the emptiness of all things. Just kidding around. The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.
27 posted on 05/30/2004 6:37:24 PM PDT by zencat (Visit my profile for MAGNETIC Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers!)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I believe that the order of Tibetan monks to which the Dalai Lama belongs traditionally wear yellow hats, so this picture would not seem to match the article.

Your statement shows a great deal of ignorance. Try reading something about the history of Tibet and the Dalai Lama. Read some of the writings of the Dalai Lama and judge for yourself. Many people who would never accept Tibetan Buddhism as their personal religion nevettheless find him a very impressive person. I recommend the Dalai Lama's autobiography where he tells what it was like to be selected at the age of four, to be trained and raised in a series of palaces in a remote country, to negotiate with Mao at the age of 19 and subsequently to barely escape with his life from the invading Chinese.

28 posted on 05/30/2004 6:37:37 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

I had understood that they were "Red Hat" or Mahayani.


29 posted on 05/30/2004 6:40:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: FairOpinion

......Did he condemn Saddam.....

My thought exactly. It's amazing to me how these religious leaders, including the Pope, criticized the war and now the abuse by a few soliers but I can't recall that they spoke out against Saddam killing and maiming his own people...including innocent men, women and children.


30 posted on 05/30/2004 6:42:22 PM PDT by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
This may be the funniest post I've ever seen. It is exactly what I think of when I hear Dali Lama (Llama/Dolly) ROFLMAO !

I have found Dali Lama's secret to life...which everyone knows is a great putting stroke.

31 posted on 05/30/2004 6:48:22 PM PDT by chiller (JUDGES is JOB #1)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Dalai, like Fidel, is a day late and a dollar short. Old news. Makes these jerkoffs johnnie come latelys.


32 posted on 05/30/2004 6:48:45 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: 4integrity

Yeah..its open season on the Yanks. F' 'em all.


33 posted on 05/30/2004 6:49:40 PM PDT by chiller (JUDGES is JOB #1)
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To: wideminded

I had understood that they were "Red Hat" or Mahayani.

I stand corrected, they are Geluk.

Tibetan Buddhism has five main schools (the suffix pa means sect):
Nyingma(pa), The Ancient Ones, the oldest and original school founded by Padmasambhava himself
Kadam(pa) (no longer existent although efforts to revitalize it are present in the Buddhist community)
Kagyu(pa), Oral Lineage, headed by the Karmapa
Sakya(pa), Grey Earth
Geluk(pa), Way of Virtue, also known as Yellow Hats, whose spiritual head is the Ganden Tripa and whose temporal head is the Dalai Lama, who was ruler of Tibet from the mid-17th to mid-20th centuries.


34 posted on 05/30/2004 6:51:05 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: zencat

See Post #26


35 posted on 05/30/2004 6:53:24 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: Salem; Happy2BMe
During the Vietnam War the Buddhists priests recruited prostitutes and prayed curses over them; then sent them to have sex with the American soldiers - declaring that every soldier who had sex with the prostitute would be cursed along with his entire family.
36 posted on 05/30/2004 6:56:29 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: chiller
"It is exactly what I think of when I hear Dali Lama "

Me too. Only sometimes Dolly Parton sneaks into my thoughts,
and my imagination runs rampant......




Then he needs to share his secret, I've been cursed for years

37 posted on 05/30/2004 7:01:26 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (....Imagine Whirled Peas.....)
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To: tet68
I had remembered this incident as representing an atttack by "red hat" monks on the Dalai Lama headquarters, but apparently there is more to it.
38 posted on 05/30/2004 7:05:38 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: 4integrity
It's amazing to me how these religious leaders, including the Pope, criticized the war and now the abuse by a few soliers but I can't recall that they spoke out against Saddam killing and maiming his own people...including innocent men, women and children.

Well, not everyone reads FR. They just don't have the information necessary to make wise decisions.

39 posted on 05/30/2004 7:10:48 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (Capital punishment saves lives.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

RICCOLAAAAAAA!


40 posted on 05/30/2004 7:11:09 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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