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Was Nick Berg a US spy?
Web India ^ | May 30, 2004 | IST

Posted on 05/30/2004 1:28:05 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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To: Snapple

Sorry about the double post. I am new to this and didn't see that my post went onto the next page. I thought it hadn't worked.


61 posted on 05/31/2004 6:57:08 AM PDT by Snapple
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To: sharktrager

Moore isn't just worried about doing one film!! He wants to bring down George Bush.....PERIOD! I'll bet Berg was working for Moore and maybe even for A.N.S.W.E.R.


62 posted on 05/31/2004 6:58:14 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Recovering Hermit

I don't count the Enquirer as a credible source but...
Didn't the Enquirer break the stories on " infamous stained dress" and Rush's "oxy" addiction?


63 posted on 05/31/2004 7:01:49 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: tillacum

I do think Berg was a SPY...but I think he worked for Michael Moore and against the US.


64 posted on 05/31/2004 7:03:04 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Rightly Biased
What about the Zaccarias Moussaoui connection?

That was a wild coincidence, Moussaoui was on the same bus as Berg and just happened to ask Nick for his password!.

There is no link between Al Queda and Iraq, George Bush has "shredded" our alliances in a rush to war, and the Easter Bunny is a card carrying member of the ACLU.

65 posted on 05/31/2004 7:03:31 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Foreign leaders for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: Snapple
Thanks snapple. Good info... and great legwork!

Aziz left the country in front of Government deportation hearings in the summer of 2003. The first individual listed on the American Iraqi Council (Ahmed Kubba) is from Florida, I believe. Based on those two things, I would doubt that there is much of a Council to be running from that location. I've been trying to get a handle on Kuba/Kubba... I just posted this earlier this morning.

I've also been researching some of Aziz's Russian mob ties. I think most of those convicted with him have been deported. I hadn't realized before that 'Brainy Don' Mogilevich had an operation in Philadelphia.... that offers endless possiblities.

Re: Aziz and Bush... I never bought that. I think he was just a guy saying the right thing (Saddam has to go) and the right wing media embraced his words without checking his true intentions (and background). Live and learn!

66 posted on 05/31/2004 7:09:12 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: sharktrager

"The regular media would have printed it with far less information than what the Enquirer had."

Oh yes, I remember that story. It was the one about the 7 year old grandmother wasn't it? Or was it the one that said aliens killed Laci Peterson? The Enquirer is nothing more than expensive (and rough) Charmin.


67 posted on 05/31/2004 7:13:12 AM PDT by MPJackal (Waiting for the big one and some nice beach front property in Nevada.)
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To: Rome2000
What about the Zaccarias Moussaoui connection? That was a wild coincidence, Moussaoui was on the same bus as Berg and just happened to ask Nick for his password!.

And as I understand it, Philadelphian Berg left CORNELL to go attend University of Oklahoma. No offense to Okies, but he left one of the most highly regarded schools, an Ivy League school, because he wanted to attend college in OKC? (where, coincidentally, some of the 911 hijackers rendezvous'd at least twice...)

68 posted on 05/31/2004 7:17:28 AM PDT by gg188
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To: Rome2000
"That was a wild coincidence"

And I've got a bridge I'd like to sell ya.

Berg and just happened to ask Nick for his password!.

And ole Nicky just happend to give him his password cause he was a trusting kinda guy.

Easter Bunny is a card carrying member of the ACLU

I thought the easter Bunny was a NAZI.

69 posted on 05/31/2004 8:03:15 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: gg188
And as I understand it, Philadelphian Berg left CORNELL to go attend University of Oklahoma. No offense to Okies, but he left one of the most highly regarded schools, an Ivy League school, because he wanted to attend college in OKC? (where, coincidentally, some of the 911 hijackers rendezvous'd at least twice...)

all just a "koinkidink" ;^}

70 posted on 05/31/2004 8:05:12 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: MPJackal
Funny.

Except this was a very true story about a pair of very famous celebrities whose public image is a total fraud. I guarantee you there are Freepers who know, respect and admire these two guys.

I will say this, there is more evidence for the story I am talking about than there was with the initial reports of the Lewinsky scandal.

The Enquirer does not do stories like the one you joked about. That is the weekly World News. The Enquirer is often trash, but has a better track record for accuracy over the last decade than the mainstream media. And they have ties to government officials courtesy of Clinton lawyers that tried to use the Enquirer to spin the scandals.
71 posted on 05/31/2004 8:32:16 AM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: MPJackal

I don't count the Enquirer as a credible source but...
Didn't the Enquirer break the stories on the " infamous stained dress" and Rush's "oxy" addiction? both of which turned out to be true.


72 posted on 05/31/2004 8:34:39 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: marron
"There is no reason for Moore to have known he existed except if he worked for Moore."

All the speculation on this topic is starting to sound like the "Paul is dead" nonsense of 1970. Read all the articles about the Berg-Moore connection. None of them even hint that they ever met. Moore is a pseudo-documentarian. He sends crews with cameras and mikes out to find interesting sound bites. A meeting of people interested in business in Iraq is a likely place to find them.

You kids have got Berg working for Moore in some anti-US conspiracy that went wrong....totally without one iota of support, just like Moore's own nonsense.

73 posted on 05/31/2004 10:24:44 AM PDT by wtc911 (keep one eye on that candle....)
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To: wtc911
You kids have got Berg working for Moore in some anti-US conspiracy that went wrong....totally without one iota of support,

You could be right. Its just a strange situation, too many strange connections, like the Kevin Bacon game where everywhere you turn, you find connections back to him.

I hadn't thought about the Walrus angle, though, I'll float that in the next thread.

74 posted on 05/31/2004 12:27:11 PM PDT by marron
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To: Thebaddog

Oh goodness, never thought of that angle.


75 posted on 05/31/2004 3:08:27 PM PDT by tillacum (President Bush and our Military will defeat the terrorists.)
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To: BOOTSTICK; texasflower
More likely Berg was a convert to Islam...

Actually, I will admit that I have wondered about that. Some people have said that he "rediscovered" Judaism (his family was your basically secular Jewish left-wing family) and that he wore a prayer shawl and tefillim.

However, he appeared to know next to no Hebrew - granted, modern spoken Hebrew is not like Biblical Hebrew - but did know some Arabic, although his pronunciation was African, since he had learned it during his stay in Africa.

When he was arrested, he had in his possession a Koran and some anti-Semitic literature, although it may have been in Persian and it's possible that he didn't know what it was.

In one picture, which I believe was taken not long before he died, based on his clothing, he was wearing a chain with something on in that looked like a very small padlock. It also looked to me a lot like the little Koran charms that some Muslims wear (it's a tiny box-like thing with a verse from the Koran inside). It was not decorated or elaborate, however, so it may actually have been just a little padlock that he put on to hold the chain together, but it certainly arouses questions.

76 posted on 05/31/2004 3:21:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: Rightly Biased

Good point. I think you are right.


77 posted on 05/31/2004 3:26:11 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit (Promise me you'll give faith a fighting chance. Dance.)
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To: tillacum

I asked him what he meant by "gay component" but so far I haven't gotten an answer.

What is reason you think that may be the case? I haven't heard anything about something like that.


78 posted on 05/31/2004 3:30:02 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: livius

Interesting. Thank you.


79 posted on 05/31/2004 3:30:35 PM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: livius

Berg has been face-to-face with terrorist Zacarias Mossouaui (spl), face-to-face with terrorist-supporter Michael Moore, and captured and killed by terrorists in Iraq. Now THAT is a coinky-dink!


80 posted on 05/31/2004 3:35:35 PM PDT by gg188
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