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To: nuconvert
What these radical fundamentalists /islamofascists/or terrorists are spreading is a bastardization of Islam.

Sez you. What gives you any more credibility on what is or isn't "true" Islam than Shiek Abu Hamsa?

Personally, I am done with this foolishness. It is not the job of the American people or its policy makers to become bogged down in the Battle of the Expert Witnesses over the question of what is or is not "true Islam," and whether or not Muslim Terror is one of its core principles or merely an aberration.

We can study the Koran for 10,000 hours, and still not come away with a conclusion on either side of the question that would not be challenged by credentialed Imams and Muslim scholars.

All we really need to know is that with few, if any, exceptions, Muslim nations have failed in their moral responsibility to contain and control Muslim terror, both within their own geographical confines and abroad. This failure now threatens the lives and interests of Americans on our own soil and around the world.

Whether this failure is the result of Islam's deliberate support for terrorism, or the inability of so-called "moderate" Muslims to muster the will to fight it is immaterial to me at this point.

Therefore, because we have the natural human right to defend our lives and our nation, we have the natural right to do the job of cleaning up Islam's mess in whatever manner will get the job done.

Whatever collateral damage results from our actions to defend our nation is the moral responsibility of the Muslim world for failing to do its humanitarian duty.

The only question we need to consider in making US policy is what will work on a practical level to protect our safety and security.

In my view, by exporting and failing to control Muslim terror, most Muslim nations have lost their right to national sovereignty in the same way that criminals in our own society lose their right to walk freely on our streets.

The Muslim world has had enough opportunity to clean up its own mess over the past 800 years. So now we will have to do it for them. It won't be pretty. But there is no question that we have to do it or die.

So I will not be listening to any more discussions of whether there are or aren't moderate Muslims at this point. If there are any, they certainly haven't proven themselves very useful in combatting the terror which threaten to make the world lousy for the next 100 years.

22 posted on 05/29/2004 1:59:29 PM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman

Wow! nicely said Maceman!!! I will be plagiarizing your statement in the many posts I make on my local leftie message board if you don't mind. that was one jewel of a post, keep it up. :)


26 posted on 05/29/2004 2:08:36 PM PDT by Stars N Stripes (My baloney has a first name, it's h o m e r, my baloney has a second name it's h o m e r .......)
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To: Maceman

Feel free to stop listening....
The reality is, the U.S. doesn't fight like that. We identify the enemy, and then try our best to limit casualties to that enemy. We can't declare war on 1.2 billion people, the vast majority of whom just want to live and provide for their families.


34 posted on 05/29/2004 2:24:09 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Maceman

None bastardize version was all out attack...that go from style in 1970s when Israelies crush them to many times and no way they can take Europe...so now new version...suiciders, etc.


63 posted on 05/29/2004 3:36:33 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Maceman

Well said.


84 posted on 05/29/2004 4:26:14 PM PDT by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: Maceman

Well done!


94 posted on 05/29/2004 5:24:00 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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