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He's still a hero in my book.
1 posted on 05/29/2004 8:33:48 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

WHO is trying to make this another anti-military incident?

WHO needs to know than an error killed him.

The only thing that is important is that he gave his life while in service for OUR country and deserved to be remembered for that reason.

damned PC pigs!


2 posted on 05/29/2004 8:36:20 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensington Jr - sounds like a clintoon appointee in there somewhere - not giving up a chance to embarass the USA more.

what a pig he is! he needs to be retired in disgrace. It woukld be much nicer if he could be sent to pakistan to live out the remainder of his slug life.


4 posted on 05/29/2004 8:40:20 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

No greater love hath this...than a man lay down his life for his friends



Sgt. Pat Tillman walked away from a $3.5 million NFL contract in 2002 to join the US Army Rangers, leaving
both his career and his new bride behind. He and his brother Kevin, (who walked away from a minor-league
baseball career) served in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

After leaving Iraq, both men returned to the States for special elite training, before being sent back to
Afghanistan, where the brothers served in the same platoon. Sgt. Tillman was killed while with his unit, part
of the 75th Ranger Regiment, hunting for al Qaeda and Taliban fighters in southeastern Afghanistan. He was
twenty-seven years old.

Pat Tillman was unique in that he embodied all that is good about America -- and his life stands in stark
contrast to the ravings of politicians like Charley Rangel or John Kerry, who claim the military is unfair.

Rangel is attempting to have the government reinstate the draft, claiming the all-volunteer force is
disproportionately poor and consists mainly of minorities. According to Rangel, the only way to get guys like
Pat Tillman into uniform is to draft them. The only ones currently serving, following Rangel's line of thinking,
are those Americans too poor, too disadvantaged and too stupid to get real jobs.

Then there are guys like John Kerry who, if given the authority of the White House, would turn it over to the
United Nations. In John Kerry's world, Sgt. Tillman would have died under the command of the organization
that propped up Saddam Hussein for a dozen years in order to loot Iraq's oil wealth.

But Sgt. Tillman didn't join the US Army Rangers to serve the United Nations -- Tillman gave his life for his
COUNTRY, not for some universalist supra-national debating society whose interests almost always are at
odds with what is good for America. Tillman wasn't a member of the dregs of Rangel's society, he was the
cream of America's youth.

Sgt Tillman was an American -- a real American. He wasn't the kind of guy to talk out both sides of his
mouth. He knew what needed to be done and he did it. Tillman is representative of an America that baffles
the liberals.

Former Reagan speechwriter and Wall Street Journal Opinion columist Peggy Noonan summed it up, writing
in 2002, "As the Vietnam-era song said, "Something's happening here." And what it is may be exactly clear.
Some very talented young men, and women, are joining the armed forces in order to help their country
because, apparently, they love it. After what our society and culture have been through and become the past
30 years or so, you wouldn't be sure that we would still be making their kind, but we are."

As the comedian Mort Sahl likes to say, "We live in the worst political system in the world -- except for all the
others."

Pat Tillman died defending that system. But it goes beyond that. He joined the Army without expectation or
agenda beyond doing what he believed to be the right thing. He was besieged by interview requests from all
manner of media, for obvious reasons.

Tillman turned down all requests. He joined the Army to defend his country, not exploit his fame.

Sgt. Tillman lived for his country. And he died for it. Despite idiots like Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton who
keep talking about 'quagmires' and 'another Vietnam' America is still capable of producing heroes like Sgt.
Pat Tillman.

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." (John 15:13)

Semper Fi


9 posted on 05/29/2004 9:18:48 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
CBS Sportsline

I found it interesting that ESPN Sports Radio (710AM in Los Angeles) is commenting that
the release of this news on the brink of Memorial Day is a good thing...so that
some nutty folks wouldn't make political hay out of the friendly-fire angle.

Tillman knew the risks and volunteered anyway. It was all "sua sponte" for him
and each of his Rangers brothers..."of his own accord".
Or in simpler terms, the Ranger, when confronted with challenges simply has
to remind himself that "I asked for this".
10 posted on 05/29/2004 9:46:51 AM PDT by VOA
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Agreed

(friendly fire isn't)

RIP Pat Tillman


11 posted on 05/29/2004 9:58:28 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War))
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

He's still a hero. Friendly fire happens. Bad luck happens. But it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't volunteered to risk his life for his country. Maybe if he stayed home he would have died in an auto accident instead. But as it is, he still gave his life for his country.


13 posted on 05/29/2004 10:07:03 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

So, the adored anonymous source in this case is Afgani ... ?

Is anyone else getting sick of "anonymous" sources ... ?


14 posted on 05/29/2004 10:48:33 AM PDT by Tilly (Tilly)
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Meanwhile, some so-called conservatives use this story to bash the Bush Administration and the "neocons"
18 posted on 05/29/2004 1:49:27 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
One of the first rules in battle: friendly fire isn't friendly.

My grandfather was in WWII and in numerous battles in the Pacific. He told me that friendly fire was very common. But then no one tried to figure it out, it was considered a part of life.

We've gotten much better at figuring out who shot whom. Probably because we're the ones doing most of the killing. However, as long as we work on our procedures we shouldn't beat ourselves up too much.

19 posted on 05/29/2004 8:45:38 PM PDT by fini
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