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1 posted on 05/28/2004 8:42:50 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: Objective Reality

Very interesting.


2 posted on 05/28/2004 8:45:19 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Objective Reality

In a disgusting ironic twist: Note the name of the column on Moore's site linked from the above.

More fodder for the "CIA killed Nick Berg" vermin at DU, undoubtably.


3 posted on 05/28/2004 8:48:20 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To begin with,no member of the Bush administration was responsible for his murder.

I know you do not believe this yourself,and you just wrote that to illustrate the point that those charges have been levelled,and are ridiculous.

Your scenario sounds very plausible, I'm not one who is particularily given to conspiracy theories, but it does not seem as insane as most I have heard.

You might be on to something.


4 posted on 05/28/2004 8:48:29 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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He really got around. I guess we know what this guys name is now, Nick Berg.
5 posted on 05/28/2004 8:49:46 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Bush plays CHESS not checkers)
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That's basically what I think too. If all of this is on the level, I can't see how Moore would have known who Berg even was, let alone spent the time to get 20 minutes worth of film footage on him.


6 posted on 05/28/2004 8:50:41 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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I have seen the video, the short and long version.

I have a theory myself.

The Screaming you hear is well before they start cutting his head off, and, it appears it is NOT from Berg.

In fact, Berg does not seem to fight at all!

I wonder if he fell for the 70 virgins lie, and went down voluntarily as a Martyr, to be used as a pawn, williingly and intentionally killed, but made to look like a murder in retaliation for Abu Grhaib?

He would be a secret Martyr to the world, but in his sick mind, a martyr none the less.

Even though two people are sitting on his back, I thought there would be more struggling.

The Russian soldier getting his head cut off is wincing, gagging, and he is not moving too much, either, it may be just that he gave up and let themselves be killed in an impossible situation.

I would hope I went down either screaming the Marine Corps hymn as they fought to kill me, or, go down singing hymns to the Lord Jesus Christ.


7 posted on 05/28/2004 8:51:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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So you think the strange route out of Iraq was to smuggle some film?? Maybe he thought Zickowie was going to smuggle him to another country and got killed instead? Could be a very large lawsuit for Hairy Fatboy if your right!! I think the Nick loves W line was cover. His dad sure hasn't stood by that lately.

Pray for W and Our Troops

8 posted on 05/28/2004 8:52:08 PM PDT by bray (Hey Yaaaawn, what if you had to answer hostile questions???)
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Good reasoning actually. I can't understand why he would interview a supposed Pro Bush Pro war Berg for his film which is decidedly anti Bush and anti War. I just know something is very weird about the entire Berg story. MM would be able to explain this quite easily, the fact that he doesn't, speaks volumes.
9 posted on 05/28/2004 8:55:59 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within.)
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Note, very well, the date.

Why not tell us the date and its significance?

12 posted on 05/28/2004 8:57:59 PM PDT by aculeus
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I'm still waiting for Michael Moore to address this on his website.

It seems that he typically has 2 stories. One for the press and one for the fringe element who support his website. They usually get totally different stories.

Not the same story twice (with 2 perspectives), there are things he just does not discuss in both places.

I don't think this was his cameraman. I also don't think that Michael got enough from Berg's comments to advance his agenda. Also, the inclusion of Berg's comments would also beg for Moore to address the kidnapping and murder of Nick Berg.

13 posted on 05/28/2004 8:58:38 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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O'Reilly is going to have Moore on his show, as a guest. E-mail O'Reilly and ask him to ask Moore about the Berg interview.


16 posted on 05/28/2004 8:59:23 PM PDT by Eva
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I will throw my hat in with the rest of the conspiracy theorist....

One wonders if the Nick Berg appeared in Moore's film before Michael Berg's name appeared on FreeRepublic.... hmmm, whos fault is this.... REALLY!?


19 posted on 05/28/2004 9:02:04 PM PDT by sd-orf
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1) Berg was not a "mercenary"; he did not do military work for a government outside of normal military/CIA employment.

2) Berg was PRO-WAR. His dad is anti-war, but Nick Berg was PRO-WAR. He supported the liberation of the Iraqi people. If he granted an interview to Michael Moore, it was probably only to share his idealism with a camera.

21 posted on 05/28/2004 9:04:19 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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Michael Moore, media whore...oops I mean hound, is getting alot of mileage out of this supposed interview video.
People entertaining ridiculous theories only adds fuel to the fire.

It's far more likely that Berg, being pro-war etc, thought himself a bit invincible and with his apparent love for derring-do and adventure, got himself too close to the belly of the beast in Iraq.


22 posted on 05/28/2004 9:04:23 PM PDT by visualops ("I....haven't got any bones.".."Nonsense, nonsense. You'd fall down without them.")
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Based on the facts so far, this is the only conclusion a rational person can come to. So many unanswered questions regarding Berg...the Moussaui connection...chance? Unlikely.
Always disliked Moore, but to see him happily go up in his tux to accept the Palme D'or, with the possibility of Berg's life on hiss hands...if true, he is a bigger bastard than one could imagine. Enterprising reporters should be investigating these connections.


27 posted on 05/28/2004 9:11:49 PM PDT by spyone
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http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/nation/8788000.htm


30 posted on 05/28/2004 9:16:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin ( . . .preservation of our liberties being with one mind resolved to die free rather than live slaves)
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Its an interesting theory. I think that either way Moore should be explaining to whatever government agency is investigating it how he came by film of Berg no one else seems to have.


33 posted on 05/28/2004 9:21:29 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals have the inverse midas touch, everything they get a hold of turns to S&*%)
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The theory Berg was working for Moore as an incountry spy/camerman is posted in this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143602/posts


36 posted on 05/28/2004 9:24:00 PM PDT by tophat9000
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Interviewed Berg....for a job!

There you have an excellent example of liberal half-truths!
42 posted on 05/28/2004 9:29:48 PM PDT by Registered
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Look, I know that Moore is a flaming scumbag and deserves what he gets, but I don't think this is the proper forum to out him. It is a criminal matter and should be handled by those charged with the responsibility for handling crimes.

It is clear that Berg was working for Moore. He took a lot of Moore's footage and turned up some really great stuff. Enough stuff for another two or three really, dramatic flicks. No, really!!

But Berg (and this is the part that the investigators will find; Moore has video tapes and taped calls and emails) wanted a much bigger cut, a share and not the salary that Moore hired him for. Moore had(has) the stuff in a can; Berg threatened and enlisted his family in Philadelphia. Moore saw an easy way out and dropped a dime on Berg.

Moore paid some Iraqi killers, folks he knew through his anti-American contacts in France, to kill Berg and take him out as a financial threat. The father would never accuse Moore if it meant missing a shot at Bush, so Moore is home free.

But, it just isn't right to out a celebrated movie hero and talk of his murder of Berg. As a movie legend, Moore deserves, well, more.

46 posted on 05/28/2004 9:33:41 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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