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To: Petronski
If Captain Sobel were still alive, he'd probably be campaigning with Kerry every day.

Stephen Ambrose was a lot more fair to Sobel in the book than I would've been.

He claims that Sobel's discipline was a factor in Easy's performance on the battlefield. I personally disagree.

Besides Winters, my favorite is ole' Shifty Powers.

11 posted on 05/28/2004 2:38:27 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Vigilantcitizen

Ambrose's work is my only knowledge of Sobel and his behavior, so I do not consider myself equipped to offer an opinion as to that question.


12 posted on 05/28/2004 2:40:25 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

I have a signed photo of Maj. Winters in my computer room....i send him a Christmas card every year...one GREAT American!!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 05/28/2004 2:41:47 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Nixon was one of my favorites, and Guarnere (I don't know why, really).

Odd, though, when Easy Company is getting word about the Ardennes offensive, they are getting details from a young corporal (IIRC) who drives up in a jeep with ammo supplies. The actor playing him: Jimmy Fallon, from SNL.


16 posted on 05/28/2004 2:43:10 PM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

What about Capt. Spears? My 14 year old son is doing Spears' biography for school for a 'pick a hero' theme project.

How many Winters' and Spears' are out there that we've never heard of? Whenever we see Old Glory, we should think of them.


26 posted on 05/28/2004 2:47:59 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Vigilantcitizen

My vote goes to Bill Guarnere....


63 posted on 05/28/2004 6:02:04 PM PDT by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
"ole' Shifty Powers."

He was the marksman, right? A sniper type?

IIRC, everybody from easy company all HATED Sobel, but most grudgingly acknowledged that he got them ready for combat by being such a jerk and insisting on top physical conditioning.

70 posted on 05/28/2004 7:46:03 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: Vigilantcitizen
My impression was that both Ambrose and the folks who produced the series considered Sobel to be the perfect martinet, a staff officer par excellence, but not a combat leader.

Very strange that Sobel was even considered for a captaincy in the Airborne. OTOH, the 101st was a new unit.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

76 posted on 05/28/2004 9:06:27 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "John Kerry: all John F., no Kennedy..." Click on my pic!)
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