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Moore interviewed Berg for "Fahrenheit" [index to thread at reply #1859]
Salon.com ^ | May 27, 2004 | Rebecca Traister

Posted on 05/27/2004 9:26:51 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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To: calcowgirl

I think you nailed it -- Berg was working at the Republican National Convention BUT now for Republicans! That makes a lot more sense.


1,581 posted on 05/31/2004 10:31:11 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: MizSterious

There is no way Berg was working for our side as a spy! That I refuse to believe. Only way I could see any of that is if he played both sides which might explain the Profs all of a sudden getting a memory! :)


1,582 posted on 05/31/2004 10:33:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: AuntB
I get a strange feeling there are several forces, including the government that don't particularly want something about this incident/associations to come out. And the government may have valid reasons why.

That makes two of us -- only reason I can think of for OU profs to all of a sudden regained their memories and know Berg well!

1,583 posted on 05/31/2004 10:44:56 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: Nita Nupress; Iwo Jima; FL_engineer; Howlin; calcowgirl; Ann Archy
So it seems we can conclude that the airwaves serve a purpose in propagandizing and the Prometheus Radio Project has that as part of their mission. Here's something about the use of radio in bringing political change, Clandestine Radio And then there is this on the use of the airwaves in pre-war Iraq Monitoring Iraq - War of the Airwaves.

The US awarded the first contract for the development of the Iraqi Media Network in March, 2003. Here's an article about the contractor's (SAIC) progress in restoring radio and television in Iraq Over 80% of Iraq receives television and radio broadcasts from the IMN. In August, 2003 U.S. Taps Media Chief for Iraq. This article discusses efforts to regulate the news media in Iraq. In January, 2004 Harris Corporation was awarded a new contract for the IMN. According to a May, 26, 2004 article in the NY Times, Berg met with Jan Bosman of Harris Corporation in Mosul in late March. There is no comment regarding Bosman's interest in hiring Berg. In the meantime the fight for an independent press continues. A few weeks ago an editor quit the Harris led IMN to start an independent publication.

Was Nick Berg in Iraq helping to develop non-US led media? This fits Moore's profile. It could explain Berg's father comments about the insurgents losing their best friend. It could connect Prometheus Radio Project's mission with Prometheus Towers. While the media would have us believe that Berg took off for Iraq without any on the ground connections, maybe he did in fact have connections. And why, with many allegations of Iran funding the insurgents, was Berg twice questioned about his Iranian connections, the second time he allegedly held Iranian currency and a book on their language. Then of course there are the Chalabi allegations and Aziz, who like Chalabi spoke passionately of the need to replace Saddam, but whose mutual US goals may have ended with his ouster. Questions, questions, questions.

1,584 posted on 05/31/2004 11:24:15 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Rennes Templar

We're all jumping in and out!


1,585 posted on 05/31/2004 11:28:42 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Nita Nupress; Howlin
Don't know if this is still the data dump thread but here's more from ChronWatch:

Nicolas Berg and the Continuing Search for Answers

Posted by Ira Simmons
Sunday, May 30, 2004

        When I wrote ''Nicholas Berg: The Dots Do Not Connect'' for ChronWatch on May 13, I knew I had a very hot story.  Along with Barbara Stock's poignant ''My Rage Over the Nick Berg Killing,'' both columns set ChronWatch records for the number of hits and the volume of e-mail sent to our website.  Because of the many unanswered questions about his life and death, ''Nicholas Berg'' also was the most used term on several major search engines during the week after the tape of the beheading was made public. 

       In the ensuing weeks, a few important questions have been answered.  But two troubling mysteries basically remain unsolved: a) What was Berg doing in Iraq when he was detained by authorities and later in the hands of Al Qaeda, and b) What really was his relationship with the so-called 20th hijacker, Zacarias Moussaoui, in 1999 when both were in Oklahoma, and did it have anything to do with Berg's eventual fate?  And a related question is ''Did father Michael Berg with his activist, far-left political leaning, contribute to the his son being in harm's way in Iraq and was thus indirectly responsible for his murder?"

       One part of the puzzle has been solved: Nicholas Berg did perform repair work on communication towers for radio stations in the Northeast and was qualified to do the same in Iraq.  Despite a media report that claimed his company never registered with the Pennsylvania Corporation Bureau, one source told ChronWatch that Berg did indeed complete high-elevation repairs and subsequently billed clients as the Prometheus Methods Tower Service.  His invoices included the required Federal Tax Identification Number.  Prometheus also employed two workers plus his father helped with the business end of the small company.  If Nick Berg performed any work on a tower under a phony name, the Federal Communications Commission would impose penalties on a radio station quicker than you can say Howard Stern!

       In my earlier column, I mentioned that virtually all reconstruction work in Iraq must pass through a few companies that have been given large government contracts.  In January, the Harris Corporation, based in Melbourne Florida, was awarded a $96 million contract for development of the Iraqi Media Network, which included repair work of communication towers.  It is believed that Nick Berg's initial trip to Iraq was to access tower damage and that he returned to the U.S. to negotiate a deal with Harris to perform the repairs.  But here is where the trail turns slippery and cold.  Before returning to Iraq, Berg e-mailed a friend that he was talking to Harris at the company's broadcast offices near Cincinnati but there is no evidence that a contract was ever signed. 

       On Wednesday, the New York Times reported that while in Iraq in March, Berg met with Jan Bosman, the regional program manager for the Iraqi Media Network, ostensibly managed by the Harris Corporation, about obtaining work.  Harris said nothing publicly after Berg's beheading video was shown which seems to indicate that he never completed a deal with the communications company.  ChronWatch is continuing the investigation into what Nick Berg was doing during his second trip to Iraq.


       On May 14, Attorney General John Ashcroft held a news conference to report that Berg was not willfully involved with Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, who had used his e-mail account when both were living in Oklahoma.  This was after Fox News and other news organizations had reported the story and the father had made some veiled references to a brush with the F.B.I. during a press conference. 

       Blindly accepting such an explanation from Ashcroft without asking a few questions seems ridiculous!  How many people, especially somebody as intelligent and computer literate as Nick Berg, would blindly lend his laptop computer or password to a stranger who spoke broken English, on a bus?  And not set up a separate free e-mail account?  I do not believe college buses had wireless Internet connection capabilities back in 1999! 

       A recent media report alleges that Berg teamed up in Baghdad to repair communication towers with Aziz Kadoory Aziz, a shady former Philadelphia resident who led a controversial group of Iraqi expatriates supposedly with encouragement by the U.S. government.   But Aziz, also known as Aziz al-Taee, was convicted in 1994 for his role in a Russian-émigré crime ring that was selling millions of vials used for crack.  Not surprisingly, this report has not gotten any traction.


       Unfortunately the two latest items about Nicholas Berg appear to be more smoke than fire.  A Thursday story in the National Enquirer is long on spy theories, short on facts, and repeats the false charge that Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc. never existed.  Then we have an assertion from far-left film maker Michael Moore that he has a videotape of a 16-minute interview of Berg.  Not conducted by Moore, the interview allegedly was recorded in early December at a convention in Virginia about rebuilding Iraq before Berg made his first trip to the liberated country.  Similar to his two recent political movies ''Bowling for Columbine'' and ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' Moore's boast of having a tape of Berg before the world knew of him may be more fiction than fact.  In his Friday report about Moore, Philadelphia Daily News reporter William Bunch asks:

       So, how would a completely unknown young wannabe contractor like Berg come to the attention of Moore, whose anti-President Bush screed ''Dude, Where's My Country?'' was the best-selling book in the nation at the time?

       Bunch also wondered Why would Moore or his crew interview Berg for "Fahrenheit 9/11" for 20 minutes, when Berg's family insists the slain contractor was pro-Bush and supported the American military action in Iraq?  But contradicting earlier statements by his father, brother David Berg now says his brother wasn't overtly political: He went to Iraq because he had certain beliefs about helping people in messed up situations, but it's not like he was trying to help the Bush administration, David Berg told the Associated Press.

        Rather than an American spy as hinted in the National Enquirer story, any link to Michael Moore or his friends would have made Nicholas Berg more likely to be aligned with his father's political activities.  As we know, Michael Berg is a highly active member of International ANSWER (''Act Now, Stop the War, and End Racism'') a group that formed a few days after the 9-11 terrorist attacks and shares the same extreme ''America Is The Root Of All Evil'' mantra as the film maker.


       Similar to winning the War On Terror, finding the truth about Nicholas Berg is proving to be a slow process, but I believe we are making progress.

Ira Simmons
http://www.topthecharts.net/

1,586 posted on 05/31/2004 11:46:43 AM PDT by nunya bidness (Yorktown)
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To: jocon307
Rachel Corrie's story makes sense though. She hated America, she supported the Palis, she went there to protest, she accidently got killed protesting.

That's what I mean. That picture of her tearing up a picture says it all.

Nick Berg is an enigma. No one ever accused him a being a loudmouthed jackass. I wonder if we'll ever know the whole story?

1,587 posted on 05/31/2004 12:18:20 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

"I wonder if we'll ever know the whole story?"

I'm thinking not. Either it's the whole truth, as it appears, weird co-incidences and all; or we'll never know.


1,588 posted on 05/31/2004 12:30:44 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Nita Nupress
Whether or not Aziz K. Aziz is truly anti-Sadaam or not, I don't know. It sure sounds like he is.

If he is, was it Nick Berg's goal to infiltrate the group?

Holy Christmas. It gets worse and worse, doesn't it?

Thanks for posting the information.

1,589 posted on 05/31/2004 12:48:59 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: texasbluebell

MM has a daughter, too? Okay, no comment. I went native on people who picked on Chelsea. The same standard applies until she grows up and turns into a public Commie...


1,590 posted on 05/31/2004 12:51:22 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Agreed, it's not her fault who her father is.


1,591 posted on 05/31/2004 12:53:47 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: nunya bidness
He went to Iraq because he had certain beliefs about helping people in messed up situations

There are several quotes from family and friends that say the same...

So which is it: was he there to help people, a sort of one-man Peace Corps? OR was he there to make money, as a contractor, to gain business for Prometheus Tower Service? It seems that in the zeal to construct a rationale for Berg's being there, these people are all over the board with explainations that contracdict themselves....

Seems like the question I pose would be a good one for media to ask/investigate. If he were there for altruism, why the elaborate Prometheus/contractor story? And if he was there to further his business, why all the "he-was-their-best-friend-and-loved-to-help-people-and-wanted-to-give-ya-da-ya-da".

Ok, stop laughing.

1,592 posted on 05/31/2004 12:53:58 PM PDT by gg188
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To: Objective Reality

Several days ago, it was suggested that MM's blog should be archived somewhere because of this. Sure enough, the site is down, and being scrubbed thoroughly with Commie Cleanser...


1,593 posted on 05/31/2004 1:02:50 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: jocon307

I was out of town for a couple of days, and I'm catching up with all the new posts. Nick's been to some places he shouldn't have been since '98. Way too many coincidences. Notice how mainstream media has gone silent on this subject?


1,594 posted on 05/31/2004 1:23:07 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I wonder who organized this conference on doing business in iraq? Perhaps the American Iraqi Council, because Berg contacted Aziz in Iraq.

If there really is a Moore video of Berg, I wonder if this was also orchestrated by the American Iraqi Council.

You know, sometimes Al Qaeda pretend to be newspeople and cameramen. Maybe Moore has Al Qaeda operatives or Russian mafiiya for cameramen. Maybe they wanted to be able to identify him.

Aziz was connected with the Russian mafiya. I think there is some weapons traffiking angle here. The Russian Mafiya sells weapons to the terrorists. Many of these Russians are actually Jewish and use this to have a base in Israel. A Jewish guy with an American passport like Berg would be useful.


1,595 posted on 05/31/2004 2:27:26 PM PDT by Snapple
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Interestingly, it is no longer possible to read "Heads Up... From Michael Moore" from the post on his website.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14


1,596 posted on 05/31/2004 2:46:39 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: RonDog

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1,597 posted on 05/31/2004 2:48:46 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: Ann Archy

"You are right!! Berg was sending...but what do you think he was sending?" ...you wrote...

I believe the comment Moore made, that he had his material sent to him via Fedex was a cover. Two (or three) camera crews were operating for Moore in Iraq and we don't know who they were, do we? One crew may have comprised of prison personnel...who staged both the prisoner 'abuse' video and the photographs. Both got out of the prison somehow. I can't imagine them being sent via a computer in the prison itself because that would leave a trace.

But Berg could do it...through his 'normal' line of work.

The people he met up with, who offered him a lift, he said they seemed nice...were probably the last to see him alive. Three days later, they were still using his cell phone.

I think he got caught up between two factions in Iraq. There are those who want a free country and those who want an islamic state. He may have told the 'nice people' what his views and activities were. To them, he would have been nothing but (an Israeli) spy.

Result; beheading video, and make it look as if the islamists did it. Twisted? You bet. But would Berg have given enough credit to the fact that not all Iraqi's want to be ruled by a theocracy? I think he was so indoctrinated into his socialist idealogy he believed every one he met was anti-American, anti-Bush, anti-War.

Maybe. Maybe.....


1,598 posted on 05/31/2004 4:09:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: nunya bidness; PhiKapMom

"I do not believe college buses had wireless Internet connection capabilities back in 1999! "

Mom, what do you think about his line in the post? Was that capability available in OKC in 1999? Sure wasn't around here.


1,599 posted on 05/31/2004 4:11:10 PM PDT by AuntB (Lawschools are Americas Madrassas (aculeus))
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To: Fred Nerks
When the beheading video came out everyone was saying, how did they know about the prison if he was killed a week earlier???? What if he had some video of the prison torture?? Course we would have to ask the next question of how and who??

Pray for W and Our Honorable Troops

1,600 posted on 05/31/2004 4:19:29 PM PDT by bray (Hey Yaaaawn, you want to cut and run like you did from Nam???)
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