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"This church used its resources to plan the event, gather the audience, provide a multimedia event and then petition its congregation, all in support of the discrimination amendment," said Karl Olson, chairman of the coalition.

Olson said churches that "engage in this type of activity" must file the appropriate paperwork with the state.

In addition to incurring fines, the church could be in danger of losing its nonprofit status with the IRS if it engages in political advocacy, he said."

1 posted on 05/27/2004 6:36:56 PM PDT by tuckrdout
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To: tuckrdout

I guess this is as good as any of a test of what churches may do regarding free speech and their tax exemptions. Just be glad its happening in Montana and not Massachusetts.


2 posted on 05/27/2004 7:05:51 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: tuckrdout
....the Commissioner of Political Practices....
3 posted on 05/27/2004 7:19:26 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Coming to a theater near you - HATESPEECH LAWS! The homosexual radicals (and how many disagree with these radicals?) want to shut up everyone who disagrees with their plans to turn the world into their own bath house.

Makes me very, very sick and angry. They can villify God, the Bible, Jesus Christ (remember some horrible play in which Jesus was portrayed as a homosexual?), Judaism and its tenets, and in Australia a couple of years ago they blasphemed Hinduism with disgusting porno pictures. All that is fine, just fine.

But for a church to say anything about homosexuality other than to have "gay marriages"? Can't have that.

These people are sick and dangerous and must be stopped.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this (very busy) pinglist.


6 posted on 05/27/2004 7:32:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("Gay Marriage" - a Weapon of Mass. Destruction!)
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To: tuckrdout
Gay rights advocates [who are]...Montanans for Families and Fairness, a coalition that includes InterMountain Planned Parenthood, PRIDE and the Montana Human Rights Network

Huh?? "Fairness, "rights," "families," and parenthood"??

Yeah, right...

7 posted on 05/27/2004 7:34:38 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: tuckrdout

You know - the Second Amendment protects the First. Do we need a reminder? Open Christianity is now tolerated. That's the last step before persecution - first in the courts, then in the streets.


8 posted on 05/27/2004 7:36:20 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: tuckrdout

The church answers to a higher law! D**m fruit fairies!


10 posted on 05/27/2004 7:39:17 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: tuckrdout

sems to me to be an open-shut case of proper exercise of first amendment rights, and any case based on this complaint ought to be thrown out of court with a fine tacked on to the plaintiff


12 posted on 05/27/2004 7:40:36 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: tuckrdout
Gay rights advocates filed a complaint with the Commissioner of Political Practices against the Canyon Ferry Road Baptist Church Wednesday, saying the church inappropriately held an event to support a proposed constitutional ban on gay marriage.

It works one way I suppose? If liberal churches support homosexuality it is OK?

13 posted on 05/27/2004 7:41:38 PM PDT by A. Pole ("Stating the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." George Orwell)
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To: tuckrdout
This is why we need the Walter Jones Jr.

Houses of Worship Political Speech Protection Act

Part of a church's duty is to guide and instruct its members to righteous participation in society, including political participation. They should not be taxed for doing their job.

14 posted on 05/27/2004 7:42:53 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Jay Rao for North Carolina Secretary of State)
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To: tuckrdout
Two thoughts:

1.) Is the church a 501(c)(3)? That would answer any questions.

2.) The church should claim that they are a black church, then no rules will apply.

15 posted on 05/27/2004 7:47:10 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: tuckrdout

With their recent successes they have become emboldened.


21 posted on 05/27/2004 8:00:11 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: tuckrdout
So.... when do we start drawing lines in the sand? The drums are beating faster and faster,

" As a man danced, so the drums were beaten for him" Achebe,

28 posted on 05/27/2004 8:17:23 PM PDT by Porterville (oOOOo USA against the World in this summer Olympics oOOOo)
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To: tuckrdout
In addition to incurring fines, the church could be in danger of losing its nonprofit status with the IRS if it engages in political advocacy, he said."

I wonder what THE REVEREND Jesse Jackson's thoughts on this are? Or maybe THE REVEREND Al Sharpton could answer it instead.

29 posted on 05/27/2004 8:19:21 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: tuckrdout

bttt


35 posted on 05/27/2004 8:39:15 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Are you a VETERAN voting for Kerry? Remember: The grass is always greener over the septic tank!)
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To: tuckrdout

Meanwhile, if you are a Black Preacher in a Black Baptist Church, you can drag John F'n Kerry up to the pulpit, scream "Praise the Lord and Vote for this man" and pass the plate for his campaign, and NOTHING will ever happen to you.


36 posted on 05/27/2004 8:47:39 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: tuckrdout

Way to go, Montana!


38 posted on 05/27/2004 9:38:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: tuckrdout

And thus it starts . . . . .


39 posted on 05/27/2004 10:42:50 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: tuckrdout

Someone please tell me what the F**K a Commissioner of Political Practices is! Is this BS for real? Have we become the former Soviet Union? Have they mangaged to really defeat us from within as promised by using the educational systme (NEA)?


40 posted on 05/27/2004 10:46:11 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: tuckrdout

When I got married to my husband I was under the impression that what we were doing was a sacred thing...between him, me and my God....I thought it was a personal thing between me and the man I love. I thought I was entering into an institution ordained by God. It's sad to think that what I have believed for long, as something beautiful and something to be cherished and nurtured has now been brought down to some political issue....sleazed up by some people who want to pervert it into something that goes against the laws of nature...

God ordained marriage between a man and a woman right from the get go...it is a church doctrine...(a sacrament in the catholic church) a doctrine that must be defended.

If THE CHURCH cannot stand up for marriage..what's next? Maybe we will follow the ways of Canada and make it a hate crime to even read portions of scripture that denounce homosexuality...dark days are coming if we don't nip this thing in the bud.


46 posted on 05/28/2004 7:04:58 AM PDT by leenie312 (1 John:4-6)
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