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Will Bush Put McCain on the Ticket (Vanity)
me | May 24, 2004 | Self

Posted on 05/24/2004 3:11:38 PM PDT by Iron Eagle

Everyone keeps talking about McCain on the Democrat ticket. What if Bush tapped him as VP?

Think it is not possible?

McCain is pro-life, which fills the biggest concern for most Conservatives. (He trumps other popular names such as Powell, Ridge, Guliani, and Rice -- all of whom are pro-choice).

He brings military credibility, and a no nonsense approach that, while not popoular, is authentic.

More importantly, he is currently being lauded by democrats. In fact, Hillary is talking about supporting him on the Kerry ticket. Naming him now, puts dems in a very uncomfortable position, as they have all been building him up.

You think Bush wopn't do it? He will do and must do whatever he has to to get elected. McCain brings cross-over dems and moderates. He also is very atrtractive to independents. Bush would do it, particularly if Cheney says it is the best move.

You think McCain won't do it. Get serious. The man wants to be President. He ets to play white night in saving this administration. He gets the seat as heir apparent to the '08 nomination, and, in two years, he will be out of the House and campaigning. In essence, it would be a two yaer gig for him, where he will have real say and real independence. This is his last and best chance to be President.

I love Cheney. But he is almost certainly going to go to try to improve this ticket. In addition, he has no '08 future. The party must have an '08 advantage, and he has always known that.

Right now, Mccain is the best pick for all of these political reasons.


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KEYWORDS: gwb2004; ironeagledoesdrugs; mccain; veep
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To: Iron Eagle; plain talk
Plain Talk has made the most important point: The Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers are already printed.
41 posted on 05/24/2004 4:18:40 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: Iron Eagle

If the job was open I would pick Zell Miller. That would tick off the liberals and Miller (prolife) might bite. I like cheney though.


42 posted on 05/24/2004 4:18:53 PM PDT by Engine82
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To: Iron Eagle

Let's see. This is what...the 4th thread today on the topic of Dick Cheney stepping down as vice president?

Discussing this possibility is EXACTLY what the Dims WANT us to do. They put up a rumor or trial balloon and people just reach up and grab it without thinking. You may think you are being clever and taking away their supposed potential V.P. dual-party nominee, but what you are actually doing is dissing President Bush, BIG TIME. You say "I love Cheney, but..." The Dims know this is a weak spot and will use it. They want to divide and conquer because they can't win any other way.

"Any thoughts?" Yes: start supporting the fine man who is already on the ticket for 2004, Vice President Dick Cheney, and cut out the dream team speculation.


43 posted on 05/24/2004 4:19:45 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Iron Eagle

And John Kerry will put Al Gore on the ticket, oops, better not give him any ideas.


44 posted on 05/24/2004 4:21:19 PM PDT by John Lenin (Nothing is wrong with California that a rise in the ocean level wouldn't cure)
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To: Iron Eagle
Right now, Mccain is the best pick for all of these political reasons.

Right now, this is the only thing I can think of that would make me stay home on Election Day.

Becki

45 posted on 05/24/2004 4:24:20 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.)
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To: Rebeleye
McCain hates Bush. His political ego has to be significantly intense for him to even consider it.

BINGO! I'd venture to say that McCain's ego is VERY intense....& he loves controversy. I say this theory is plausable......probably won't happen, but it COULD!

46 posted on 05/24/2004 4:28:30 PM PDT by Ragirl (Vote in '04 ! Those who sit on their hands end up with poop on them.)
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To: Iron Eagle
Right now, Mccain is the best pick

Go ahead and pick McCain.... and kiss the conservative support goodbye.

47 posted on 05/24/2004 4:38:27 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: Iron Eagle

My only contention was that I think it's useless speculation as President Bush has said all along that Cheney is the man.... thus unless something changes to reverse that then nothing is going to happen. My guess is that if Cheney feels he's a drag or his health becomes an issue for him then he'll be on the ticket. I personally don't think people vote for a ticket based upon the VP all that much. Maybe a state would support a candidate of their own whereby they may not if he were from some other state....

It's about three months to the convention so yes it could change but so far nothing has came out of the White House indicating anything different.


48 posted on 05/24/2004 4:42:18 PM PDT by deport (To a dog all roads lead home.......)
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To: joesbucks
That's such a load of roadapples. McCain got savaged by the Dems who tried to pin it on the 'Bush machine' in order further coopt McCain. The tactic was a classic Chicago-Democrat one, and was used again by the DNC for Al Gore in election 2000 when the DNC had their foggy little telemarketing company make the early AM calls hinting to Democrat voters that they 'might have voted for Buchanan by mistake.'
49 posted on 05/24/2004 6:01:40 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: jmaroneps37

And I'm not so sure McCain still qualifies as a Republican.


50 posted on 05/24/2004 6:33:33 PM PDT by conshack
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To: deport

Cheney is the reason many of us felt comfortable voting for Bush in 2000...he is a temperate and stabilizing force behind the throne, he isn't an egomaniac but a true patriot who has served his country for what, 3 decades? I still trust him, and the only way I would accept his leaving the ticket is if his health was obviously an issue. Then, I would replace him with...


Colin Powell!!!!

And make Cheney Sec of State


51 posted on 05/24/2004 6:36:04 PM PDT by bitt
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To: CWOJackson

After raising taxes, pulling troops and appointing Hillary, KERRY will also do some intelligent things for our country.


52 posted on 05/24/2004 6:38:06 PM PDT by conshack
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To: joesbucks
McCain was so savaged by the Bush machine in 2000, he's now damaged goods. What happend to him is the same thing that happened to Bob Dole in '96. Phil Gramm, Steve Forbes and Pat Buchanan so savaged him in the primary, he was mortally wounded by time it came time to take on Clinton.

That's one way to look at it. No Republican had a chance in 1996... Clinton was too popular. I always thought that the 96 primaries were more to let a few old time GOPers have their day in the sun before being put out to retirement. None of them really had a chance in Hades to defeat Clinton.
53 posted on 05/24/2004 6:40:36 PM PDT by birbear (I'll take Things Nobody Knows for $300, please, Alex.)
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To: kaktuskid

"NO and HELL NO!"

Took the word right out of my rectum!


54 posted on 05/24/2004 6:42:05 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: Iron Eagle

Rudolph Guiliani would be my choice.


55 posted on 05/24/2004 6:43:26 PM PDT by conshack
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To: conshack

The not so funny aspect of all of this...there was another thread earlier today where one of pat buchanan's old supporters was exclaiming how the President SHOULD raise import duties on incoming oil.


56 posted on 05/24/2004 6:43:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: bitt

Sorry, but I think you'll find that Powell is going into retirement quite soon.


57 posted on 05/24/2004 6:49:35 PM PDT by conshack
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To: Iron Eagle
Picking this President is about winning -- plain and simple. All I ask is, putting aside our conservative love for Cheney -- how does Cheney help us? And, if Cheney does not stay -- who will we pick?

Let me answer your question with a question... how does changing from Cheney help us?


Some of your thoughts make a lot of sense, and I see Cheney as kind of a lightning rod (which can be good or bad)... but how does picking somebody other then Cheney help the cause... yeah, it may help the cause in 08, but how does it help us win now.

The waves that a change would cause, now, would overwhelm any political capital that might be picked up. Cheney's a known quantity. If you were to change candidates right now, you're riling up that big old hornets nest known as the media...distracting people from doing what needs to be done in the campaign and in Iraq.

Sometimes keeping things at status quo is the proper thing to do.
58 posted on 05/24/2004 6:49:45 PM PDT by birbear (I'll take Things Nobody Knows for $300, please, Alex.)
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To: bitt

My sense is that if Cheney leaves that he will be gone and not step into a more stressful job..... jmo. Cheney deserves to be able to kick back and do what he wants now and I guess that could entail another cabinet job, but not my guess.


59 posted on 05/24/2004 7:09:09 PM PDT by deport (To a dog all roads lead home.......)
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To: deport

as long as he is working closely with W, I guess I wouldn't worry...but I like him and I think his wife is great, too...there's a couple who have put some very fruitful hours into their lives...


60 posted on 05/24/2004 7:15:32 PM PDT by bitt
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