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Bush Slip in Polls Could Tip Congress to Democrats
Associated Press ^ | May 23, 2004

Posted on 05/23/2004 1:22:17 PM PDT by Aetius

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To: jimbo123
Here's what http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/60minutes/main618896.shtml notes, tonight:

Gen. Zinni wasn’t the only former military leader with doubts about the invasion of Iraq. Former General and National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft, former Centcom Commander Norman Schwarzkopf, former NATO Commander Wesley Clark, and former Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki all voiced their reservations. Zinni believes this was a war the generals didn’t want – but it was a war the civilians wanted. “I can't speak for all generals, certainly. But I know we felt that this situation was contained. Saddam was effectively contained. The no-fly, no-drive zones. The sanctions that were imposed on him,” says Zinni.

81 posted on 05/23/2004 5:11:48 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Zinni...yes, the great military leader who gave us the USS Cole disaster. Not a wonder you would quote him.


82 posted on 05/23/2004 5:12:55 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Aetius

More bullshit there really getting desperate.


83 posted on 05/23/2004 5:13:14 PM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around The democrats would rather win the WH then win the war-Tom Delay)
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To: churchillbuff
You do remember the Cole disaster don't you? The US Navy ship that was made a sitting duck and a big target because of the political decisions Zinni made to please the Clinton White House.

The minor little mistake that cost the lives our U.S. sailors.

84 posted on 05/23/2004 5:17:46 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: churchillbuff
Don't be shy there Chamberlainbuff...surely even you've heard about the Cole.

Or am I to presume that your knowledge of Zinni is about has strong as your knowledge of Churchill...not very good.

85 posted on 05/23/2004 5:25:12 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Aetius
..while floundering in NC, SC, and Louisiana?

I don't know about us floundering in Louisiana, but in North Carolina there's tons of liberal wishful thinking going on there. Overrating things as usual. I'm not saying it's going to be a cake walk, but the NC picture isn't as rosy as the left thinks.

Would you please inform me of where we're floundering here in South Carolina? I guess I didn't get that memo.

Something the media is ignoring completely is the Democrat's complete divorce with family values and it effect on their Southern voter base. The Democrats are losing people right and left due to their anti values stand. They're sending voters a message that the Dems don't need them. Some are coming over to our side, but many will just stay home come the election. You'll see it's result in November. The media and Democrats will be shocked, I wont.

86 posted on 05/23/2004 5:29:37 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

At the end of the day, "it's the economy, stupid." And the economy is roaring ahead now and surely for the next six months. I don't care WHAT happens in Iraq, so long as the economy continues to improve by leaps and bounds, Nov. 2 is going to be a very b-a-a-a-a-d day for Democrats across the U.S.


87 posted on 05/23/2004 6:25:56 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Aetius

Democrats live to lie and lie to live- even their dreams are lies.

Their victory or defeat depends entirely upon how many dead people they take to the polls by proxy.


88 posted on 05/23/2004 6:48:46 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Loose libs sink ships!!!!!)
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To: WFTR

Bill, don't forget how Republicans are going to steal the sugar from the State if they get elected. Of course, you only hear that about two weeks before an election.

Rats Lie.


89 posted on 05/23/2004 6:49:41 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Aetius

Bush did the right thing. The media has been seeing to it for months now that people think he didn't. Regardless, HE DID! You obviously are falling for the same line those who only listen to the mainstream media have. Rather surprising, actually. The lies of the left are evil.


90 posted on 05/23/2004 6:52:46 PM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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To: churchillbuff

Why don't they ask these brilliant minds if they would start then stop then start then stop a military campaign? Of course they would not.

Get the job done.

Cry about it later.

We can't leave until it is done and that is soon. Until then, CNN will hold their pictures of all the babies that Hasturt killed with his bare hands in the deserts of Iraq. What, you say Dennis would never do that. It doesn't matter, they can make the pictures say what they want.


91 posted on 05/23/2004 6:52:56 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: rebel_yell2

"At the end of the day."

Please, I beg you to refrain from using that phrase-the sight of it causes me to rash.


92 posted on 05/23/2004 6:55:14 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Loose libs sink ships!!!!!)
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To: Aetius

We better not let the democrats take over Congress,....just think of all of our conservative agenda, like making government smaller, that our brave Republicans have passed,.....
HA HA HA!!!! HA!! HA!! HA!!HA!!HA!!
(I kill me sometimes!)


93 posted on 05/23/2004 6:57:57 PM PDT by Merdoug
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To: jimbo123

Well, I guess that blows the dream of some freepers for gridlock by wishing for Kerry and a GOP congress to "stand up to him".


94 posted on 05/23/2004 6:59:36 PM PDT by Texasforever (When Kerry was asked what kind of tree he would like to be he answered…. Al Gore.)
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To: Aetius
Associated Press...

That's as far as I read. Nothing but a propoganda wing for the socialists.


95 posted on 05/23/2004 7:00:13 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Coop
First of all Coop, you don't have to get contentious with me. You forget who you are talking to. NOVA is fine, thank you.

His approval ratings have continually dropped, despite things like good economic news. You tell me why this is happening. I have friends on the hill just like you and they wondering what the hell is going on. The saving grace is that Kerry is such a weak candidate. You know what, we got in the same argument 3 months ago and I said that Dubya's numbers should be better considering he is running against a guy who said he was going to raise your taxes and marry 2 guys named Bruce.

I am already working on it from my end so I can't blame myself. I'll also be in NY working at the convention. I have my bases covered.

96 posted on 05/23/2004 8:09:48 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: ModelBreaker
Bush is going to have to pull a labor day miracle to slough off that pounding and right the campaign.

Oh brother. [rolling eyes]

97 posted on 05/24/2004 4:26:38 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: churchillbuff

It's still the same war, General.


98 posted on 05/24/2004 4:29:57 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: KC_Conspirator
First of all Coop, you don't have to get contentious with me. You forget who you are talking to.

Forgotten? Hardly. :-) That's how I know of your history of talking down the campaign. While I applaud your involvement, I'm actually sorry to hear you'll be at the convention. The phrase "with friends like you..." comes to mind.

99 posted on 05/24/2004 4:35:32 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Jim Robinson

As to the Left/Dems going down in flames, I hope you are right. Part of me believes you may be right this year, but over the long run I can not see a bright future for the conservatives/GOP due to demographic changes. The simple fact is that unending mass legal and illegal immigration favors the Democrats, but despite most Americans wanting immigration reduced the GOP refuses to give voice to that, despite it being a potentially huge short-term vote winner, despite it being good for the country, and despite the fact that to reduce the influx would significantly slow and alter the demographic shift taking place, which would in turn give the GOP a reasonable chance to compete in the future w/o becoming a Democrat-lite party.


100 posted on 05/24/2004 8:47:00 AM PDT by Aetius
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