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Scott Ritter: 'Sarin Bomb!'-The Dud Heard Round the World
Pravda ^ | 5/21/04

Posted on 05/21/2004 6:55:23 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

'Sarin Bomb!' v The Dud Heard Round the World

by Scott Ritter from the May 21, 2004 edition

Iraq sarin shell is not part of a secret cache

By Scott Ritter

DELMAR, N.Y. v In the mid-1980s I served as the intelligence officer for a Marine artillery battalion. Stationed in Twentynine Palms, Calif., I would often find myself deployed in the field, on exercises where thousands of live artillery rounds were fired downrange.

In keeping with the Marine artillery motto of "shoot, move, communicate," we were always moving from one firing location to another to simulate modern war.

This mobility had us often passing through live-fire impact areas.

One thing you quickly learned was not to touch anything lying on the ground, because modern artillery shells had a high "dud" rate, meaning they didn't always function the way they were intended.

Tens of thousands of these "duds" were scattered across the desert terrain, not unlike those found in Iraq.

What makes this relevant now is the ongoing speculation about the source of the sarin chemical artillery shell that the US military found rigged as an improvised explosive device (IED) last week in Baghdad. If the 155-mm shell was a "dud" fired long ago - which is highly likely - then it would not be evidence of the secret stockpile of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that the Bush administration used as justification to invade Iraq.

As a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, I know that the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), the US-led unit now responsible for investigating WMD in Iraq, could quite easily determine whether this shell had been fired long ago or not.

Given the trouble the administration has had in documenting its past allegations about WMD, releasing the news of last week's sarin shell without the key information about the state of the shell itself seems disingenuous.

As a former UN inspector, I'm also familiar with the level of disarmament achieved concerning Iraq's banned WMD. And during my time in Iraq, 95 percent of the WMD produced by Iraq were verifiably accounted for.

But I've always contended that Iraq is a WMD archaeological site, and that if one digs long enough, vestiges of these past WMD programs will be uncovered. Determining whether the discovery of the sarin artillery shell represents such an archaeological discovery, or is part of Saddam Hussein's alleged stockpile of WMD, rests with a full forensic exam of the shell.

The key to whether the sarin artillery round came from an arms cache or was a derelict dud rests in the physical characteristics of the shell.

The artillery shells in question were fitted with two aluminum cannisters separated by a rupture disk. The two precursor chemicals for the kind of sarin associated with this shell were stored separately in these containers.

The thrust of the shell being fired was designed to cause the liquid in the forward cannister to press back and break the rupture disk, whereupon the rotation of the shell as it headed downrange would mix the two precursors together, creating sarin.

Upon impact with the ground - or in the air, if a timed fuse was used - a burster charge would break the shell, releasing the sarin gas.

Many things go wrong when firing an artillery round: the propellent charge can be faulty, resulting in a round that doesn't reach its target; the fuse can malfunction, preventing the burster charge from going off, leaving the round intact; the rupture disk can fail to burst, keeping precursor chemicals from combining.

The fuse could break off on impact, leaving the fuse cavity empty. To the untrained eye, the artillery shell, if found in this state, would look weathered, but unfired.

What gives away whether the shell had been fired is the base-bleed charge, which unlike the rest of the shell, will show evidence of being fired (or not).

Iraq declared that it had produced 170 of these base-bleed sarin artillery shells as part of a research and development program that never led to production.

Ten of these shells were tested using inert fill - oil and colored water. Ten others were tested in simulated firing using the sarin precursors.

And 150 of these shells, filled with sarin precursors, were live-fired at an artillery range south of Baghdad. A 10 percent dud rate among artillery shells isn't unheard of - and even greater percentages can occur.

So there's a good possibility that at least 15 of these sarin artillery shells failed and lie forgotten in the Iraq desert, waiting to be picked up by any unsuspecting insurgent looking for raw material from which to construct an IED.

Given what's known about sarin shells, the US could be expected to offer a careful recital of the data with news of the shell. But facts that should have accompanied the story - the type of shell, its condition, whether it had been fired previously, and the age and viability of the sarin and precursor chemicals - were absent.

And that's opened the door to irresponsible speculation that the shell was part of a live WMD stockpile. The data - available to the ISG - would put this development in proper perspective - allowing responsible discussion of the event and its possible ramifications.

Given that the US is in the midst of a contentious presidential campaign, it's essential that accurate data about Iraq be available to the electorate.

The handling of the sarin shell incident is the greatest justification yet for shutting down the ISG, and the immediate return to Iraq of UN weapons inspectors - if for no other reason than to restore a vestige of credibility to a disarmament effort that long ago lost its moral compass.

• Scott Ritter was a UN weapons inspector in Iraq (1991-1998) and is author of 'Frontier Justice: Weapons of Mass Destruction and the Bushwhacking of America.'

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Anyone know if Ritter is listed in any documentation for involvement in the UN Oil-for-Money-for-Terrorists program?


81 posted on 05/21/2004 1:27:06 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (All people are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights)
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To: CMAC51

Actually, the binary training rounds that I looked at in the Army appeared to be very similar to a base ejecting smoke or illumination round. I don't believe the projectile body is supposed to open up, since the burster charge on the fuze won't blow the shell open. I think all it does is push the whole mess out the back of the shell.


82 posted on 05/21/2004 1:31:06 PM PDT by rangerX
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

So we found a WMD but it really doesn't count as a WMD. LOL


83 posted on 05/21/2004 1:32:47 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Bandwidth exceeded... must be a popular site :)

Until they get more bandwidth, the content is available via the wayback machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030626154753/http://www.ropma.net/ritter.htm


84 posted on 05/21/2004 1:48:51 PM PDT by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: huck von finn
My guess is that they were indeed destroyed in the nineties, but the slime Saddam certainly didn't want too many people to know that.

Guess again.

85 posted on 05/21/2004 1:53:42 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: dangus

"Anyone else wondering WTF Scott Ritter is doing writing in Pravda?"

His 'friend' Justin Raimondo got him the gig.


86 posted on 05/21/2004 2:01:39 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

The flaw in this Saddam apologist/ democrat party operative's lickspittle is, the shell is from a cache of more than forty that have been siezed now by our troops! Ritter needs to be shot at dawn, by the parents of the children he's molested.


87 posted on 05/21/2004 2:06:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

I think your right!


88 posted on 05/21/2004 2:08:02 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: rangerX
Actually, the binary training rounds that I looked at in the Army appeared to be very similar to a base ejecting smoke or illumination round. I don't believe the projectile body is supposed to open up, since the burster charge on the fuze won't blow the shell open. I think all it does is push the whole mess out the back of the shell.

That would make sense for an impact fused round. For airburst, a forward loaded pattern would seem to create more dispersion, which is the goal with a chemical weapon.

89 posted on 05/21/2004 2:15:57 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: JCB
I dunno exactly where I'd put the number but it sure as hell isn't one shell!

Ummm, yes it is one shell according to the terms of the cease fire and the UN resolution.

90 posted on 05/21/2004 2:23:13 PM PDT by tbeatty (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat salad.)
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To: CMAC51

Actually, base ejection is how we disperse DP-ICM bomblets as well, which have a good dispersion pattern. However, after consulting my old Battery XO handbook, I'm led to believe that the round must burst, since all chemical rounds for the 155 require either point detonating or proximity fuzes, which are generally used to initiate the bursting sequence. A mechanical time fuze would be used for a base ejecting round, and the book says this is an illegal shell-fuze combination for the chem round.


91 posted on 05/21/2004 2:41:21 PM PDT by rangerX
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To: MHGinTN

"the shell is from a cache of more than forty that have been siezed now by our troops!"

When? Did this just happen today? Link me!


92 posted on 05/21/2004 2:51:07 PM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

I guess he's running out of speaking engagements. He's made a fortune just giving speeches to dumb asses.


93 posted on 05/21/2004 2:54:27 PM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around The democrats would rather win the WH then win the war-Tom Delay)
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To: dangus

First thing I noticed.


94 posted on 05/21/2004 4:41:25 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: Tommyjo

FYI


95 posted on 05/21/2004 4:59:00 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: JCB

Mr. JCB:

Here are some other reasons people might not be willing to talk:

* Who is killing Iraqi weapons scientists? In closed testimony to members of Congress earlier this year, David Kay reported that Saddam Hussein's top scientists have been targeted for assassination. Terrorists and Baathists have killed nine prominent scientists since April 9, 2003. All those killed had worked in one way or another on Baathist weapons programs. All had been questioned by the Iraq Survey Group.

From this article posted here in Freeper Land:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140062/posts

A lot of other interesting stuff, namely that David Kay was not the end of the search. Charles Duelfer is still looking and says they have a LONG way to go. Have a look...

I say it is a mathematical certainty that those who keep gloating that there were no WMD...WILL GET BURNED.


96 posted on 05/21/2004 5:32:14 PM PDT by Zhangliqun
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To: Zhangliqun

"30 Mig jets were found buried in the sand intact outside Baghdad last summer. If you can bury 40-foot long, 15-foot tall fighter planes in the sand and have them not found by inspectors for 12 years,"

Those aircraft were dispersed and buried in the weeks prior to the Coalition attack. The inspectors were not looking for any of these aircraft as the Iraqi's were allowed to own and operate them.


97 posted on 05/22/2004 12:42:51 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Does it matter? They still buried 'em. May not have been buried for 12 years, but actions sometimes indicate patterns.


98 posted on 05/24/2004 7:13:41 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (All people are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar; freebilly

If it was a dude, the firing of this from the piece would have mixed the chemicals making this deadly to the troops.


99 posted on 06/02/2004 9:26:27 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
So there's a good possibility that at least 15 of these sarin artillery shells failed and lie forgotten in the Iraq desert, waiting to be picked up by any unsuspecting insurgent looking for raw material from which to construct an IED.

Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket! The terrorists just happened to FIND an unexploded Sarin bomb in the middle of the desert!~

100 posted on 06/02/2004 10:19:59 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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