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Scott Ritter: 'Sarin Bomb!'-The Dud Heard Round the World
Pravda ^ | 5/21/04

Posted on 05/21/2004 6:55:23 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

'Sarin Bomb!' v The Dud Heard Round the World

by Scott Ritter from the May 21, 2004 edition

Iraq sarin shell is not part of a secret cache

By Scott Ritter

DELMAR, N.Y. v In the mid-1980s I served as the intelligence officer for a Marine artillery battalion. Stationed in Twentynine Palms, Calif., I would often find myself deployed in the field, on exercises where thousands of live artillery rounds were fired downrange.

In keeping with the Marine artillery motto of "shoot, move, communicate," we were always moving from one firing location to another to simulate modern war.

This mobility had us often passing through live-fire impact areas.

One thing you quickly learned was not to touch anything lying on the ground, because modern artillery shells had a high "dud" rate, meaning they didn't always function the way they were intended.

Tens of thousands of these "duds" were scattered across the desert terrain, not unlike those found in Iraq.

What makes this relevant now is the ongoing speculation about the source of the sarin chemical artillery shell that the US military found rigged as an improvised explosive device (IED) last week in Baghdad. If the 155-mm shell was a "dud" fired long ago - which is highly likely - then it would not be evidence of the secret stockpile of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that the Bush administration used as justification to invade Iraq.

As a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, I know that the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), the US-led unit now responsible for investigating WMD in Iraq, could quite easily determine whether this shell had been fired long ago or not.

Given the trouble the administration has had in documenting its past allegations about WMD, releasing the news of last week's sarin shell without the key information about the state of the shell itself seems disingenuous.

As a former UN inspector, I'm also familiar with the level of disarmament achieved concerning Iraq's banned WMD. And during my time in Iraq, 95 percent of the WMD produced by Iraq were verifiably accounted for.

But I've always contended that Iraq is a WMD archaeological site, and that if one digs long enough, vestiges of these past WMD programs will be uncovered. Determining whether the discovery of the sarin artillery shell represents such an archaeological discovery, or is part of Saddam Hussein's alleged stockpile of WMD, rests with a full forensic exam of the shell.

The key to whether the sarin artillery round came from an arms cache or was a derelict dud rests in the physical characteristics of the shell.

The artillery shells in question were fitted with two aluminum cannisters separated by a rupture disk. The two precursor chemicals for the kind of sarin associated with this shell were stored separately in these containers.

The thrust of the shell being fired was designed to cause the liquid in the forward cannister to press back and break the rupture disk, whereupon the rotation of the shell as it headed downrange would mix the two precursors together, creating sarin.

Upon impact with the ground - or in the air, if a timed fuse was used - a burster charge would break the shell, releasing the sarin gas.

Many things go wrong when firing an artillery round: the propellent charge can be faulty, resulting in a round that doesn't reach its target; the fuse can malfunction, preventing the burster charge from going off, leaving the round intact; the rupture disk can fail to burst, keeping precursor chemicals from combining.

The fuse could break off on impact, leaving the fuse cavity empty. To the untrained eye, the artillery shell, if found in this state, would look weathered, but unfired.

What gives away whether the shell had been fired is the base-bleed charge, which unlike the rest of the shell, will show evidence of being fired (or not).

Iraq declared that it had produced 170 of these base-bleed sarin artillery shells as part of a research and development program that never led to production.

Ten of these shells were tested using inert fill - oil and colored water. Ten others were tested in simulated firing using the sarin precursors.

And 150 of these shells, filled with sarin precursors, were live-fired at an artillery range south of Baghdad. A 10 percent dud rate among artillery shells isn't unheard of - and even greater percentages can occur.

So there's a good possibility that at least 15 of these sarin artillery shells failed and lie forgotten in the Iraq desert, waiting to be picked up by any unsuspecting insurgent looking for raw material from which to construct an IED.

Given what's known about sarin shells, the US could be expected to offer a careful recital of the data with news of the shell. But facts that should have accompanied the story - the type of shell, its condition, whether it had been fired previously, and the age and viability of the sarin and precursor chemicals - were absent.

And that's opened the door to irresponsible speculation that the shell was part of a live WMD stockpile. The data - available to the ISG - would put this development in proper perspective - allowing responsible discussion of the event and its possible ramifications.

Given that the US is in the midst of a contentious presidential campaign, it's essential that accurate data about Iraq be available to the electorate.

The handling of the sarin shell incident is the greatest justification yet for shutting down the ISG, and the immediate return to Iraq of UN weapons inspectors - if for no other reason than to restore a vestige of credibility to a disarmament effort that long ago lost its moral compass.

• Scott Ritter was a UN weapons inspector in Iraq (1991-1998) and is author of 'Frontier Justice: Weapons of Mass Destruction and the Bushwhacking of America.'

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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Why this man is given any credibility is beyond me. Count on him to show up on H&C to espouse his theories.


21 posted on 05/21/2004 7:20:03 AM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Scott Ritter's... *ahem*... "girlfriend" ponders their future life together, once she's finished fingerpainting for today and taken a nap. :)

22 posted on 05/21/2004 7:20:17 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If the 155-mm shell was a "dud" fired long ago - which is highly likely - then it would not be evidence of the secret stockpile of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that the Bush administration used as justification to invade Iraq.

His entire argument is based on a BIG "if". He doesn't even show how it's highly likely that the round was a "dud"....unless he believes the information he received from the Iraqis.

Maybe he asked Bagdad Bob.

23 posted on 05/21/2004 7:21:03 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I wish someone would blindfold Scott Ritter, put a panty on his head, attach electrodes to his hands, feet and genitalia and make him stand on top of a small box for a few days.
24 posted on 05/21/2004 7:23:14 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Scott Ritter was found to be a dud in Burger King's parking lot. He claimed that he wanted to be a "Weapon of Ass Destruction."


25 posted on 05/21/2004 7:23:50 AM PDT by midwestmidnight
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If the 155-mm shell was a "dud" fired long ago - which is highly likely

A completely bogus statement by someone with enough knowledge to know better. Sarin has a shelf life of about 3 weeks once the two components are mixed. If the shell was fired long ago, the contents would have been inert by this time. This was a binary shell designed to mix the components after the shell was fired.

Sadaam never declared having this type of shell and UN inspectors had previously indicated that Sadaams chemical shells required mixing the two components prior to firing the shell. This shell was more likely to have been acquired after 1996 and could not have been previously fired.

Scott Ritter knows this and is purposely providing deceptive information - AKA - lying!

26 posted on 05/21/2004 7:24:56 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

THis jerk keeps reminding us he was a Marine.

However this is one Marine whose motto is not "semper fidelis" but "nunquam fidelis" (never faithful).


27 posted on 05/21/2004 7:25:39 AM PDT by Beckwith
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To: reagan_fanatic
I wish someone would blindfold Scott Ritter, put a panty on his head, attach electrodes to his hands, feet and genitalia and make him stand on top of a small box for a few days.

LOL. I would pay to see tha....

On second thought, you couldn't pay me to watch it.

Some things should just be done in private.

28 posted on 05/21/2004 7:27:34 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"..What gives away whether the shell had been fired is the base-bleed charge, which unlike the rest of the shell, will show evidence of being fired (or not).

Iraq declared that it had produced 170 of these base-bleed sarin artillery shells as part of a research and development program that never led to production. .."

Base Bleed Unit

The Base Bleed Unit generates gas that fills the vacuum behind the projectile base, reducing base drag on the fired projectile by up to 80% and increases the range of the shell. From what I could find they are detachable. If this was true of this Iraqi shell, it may be the case that the unit was not installed and would be unnecessary anyway when the shell was used as an IED.

29 posted on 05/21/2004 7:30:51 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Man! This guy really believes in fulfilling a contract, huh?

Hey, Scott! We know you were paid off by Saddam!! Your credibility is ZERO!


30 posted on 05/21/2004 7:31:58 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Beckwith
Scott Ritter is a liar and a traitor. He has forfeited his right to call himself a "Marine", or an American. All for a unspecified amount of Saddam' oil voucher money. If I saw him in public, I would say this to his face, but I doubt that I will ever get the chance. The man should be arrested and charged with espionage and treason.
31 posted on 05/21/2004 7:35:08 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Well, thanks, Scotty!!! We sure do appreciate your straightening us out about duds and stuff.


32 posted on 05/21/2004 7:39:48 AM PDT by Maria S ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."George W. Bush 1/20/01)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
6 year vet of CBtry 1st Bn/11th Marines. I served more time in 29 Palms than at my home base of Pendleton (or so it seems). He is correct that there are lots of duds lying around. I dont think that number is in the thousands. Ordinance disposal comes along too often and blows these things up.

I disagree that duds could be mistaken for an unfired shell. First off, you have the copper(?) rings around the round that seal it in the gun tube. they get big gouges through them once loaded and fired. then they have to land and that always leaves huge gouge marks all across the side that hit the ground. Then there is the matter of a seriously deformed fuse at the top of the round. Its extremely rare that a dud wont have a fuse still attached.

10% dud rate! Not on your life. Maybe 1 in 500. Most duds were illumination rounds that had parachute malfunctions or a timed fuse (set to go off when the round is "expected" to be over the target) But still not even in the ballpark of 10%.

33 posted on 05/21/2004 7:39:51 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I can only speak to the Corps 155s. We dont have anything on the bottom of our shells.(Copperhead and R.A.P. excepted) Just a flat bottomed shell.


34 posted on 05/21/2004 7:43:39 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: Beckwith
Scott Ritter's wife is a Russian. With him showing up in Pravda, I am reminded of that fact.

I also recall that there were several Russian names on that list of beneficiaries of the Oil for Food program.

It would not surprise me that one was a conduit for paying Ritter. I do hope someone in officialdom is investigating where the money went.

35 posted on 05/21/2004 7:46:18 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

I thought this guy died, now he`s writing about freggin` Sarin of all things? I am so sick of Hollywood. My favorite episode of Threes Company is when he finally nails Janet and Crissy but Mr. Roper still thinks he gay.


36 posted on 05/21/2004 7:49:34 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: nuffsenuff
Man! This guy really believes in fulfilling a contract, huh?

My guess is one of the last of Saddam's official acts beforing crawling into his spider hole was to novate Scott's contract to the DNC.

37 posted on 05/21/2004 7:53:12 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

38 posted on 05/21/2004 7:53:12 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: OldFriend

Good morning, OldFriend.

I see we have similar feelings about Scott Ritter. (shudder)

He is a loathesome critter.


39 posted on 05/21/2004 7:53:25 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
So there's a good possibility that at least 15 of these sarin artillery shells failed and lie forgotten in the Iraq desert, waiting to be picked up by any unsuspecting insurgent looking for raw material from which to construct an IED.

This is called terrorist 'manna'.

Talk about putting the conclusion ahead of the evidence. Yes, there is a good possibility Saddam had secret stockpiles also. There are lots of other good possibilities. However we choose the most "probable".

We thinking like his no wonder they never found anything.

40 posted on 05/21/2004 7:56:21 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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