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What brand of gas you should REALLY boycott!
05/19/04 | self

Posted on 05/19/2004 11:57:59 AM PDT by kaktuskid

For all of those getting e-chain letters saying to not buy gasoline today, or don't buy this gas brand or that, I have one company you can vent your anger on...CITGO.

CITGO is owned 100% by the Venenzuelan government, run by that nutjob dictator Hugo "parrotbrain" Chavez, the nutcase who is the main reason why OPEC is cutting production, and keeps ranting about cutting off oil supplies, seize this, seize that,etc.

If any of you have a CITGO credit card, cut it up,send it back, and tell them why. And don't buy gas or motor oil from these thugs!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: boycott; citgo; economy; oil; venenzuela
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid

*See post 23. I failed to mention that there are 22 grades of gasoline in this country (including ethanol--more expensive to make, but forced down your throat by T. Daschle), and there has not been a new refinery built in 20 years. In fact, the Saudis offered to build 2 new 500,000 bbl. per day refineries, here in the US, at no cost to us. There only requirement is that we give them permits--we couldn't even do that. The only solution would be to start making 1 grade of gas, 1 grade of diesel, etc. (make it the toughest if you want New York or Calif.) and convert the refineries where they are interchangeable.


41 posted on 05/19/2004 1:44:54 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: lilylangtree
United we stand divided we fall. In a unified voice and action, people that don't buy gas today can possibly send a message. Not a big but a small one. Maybe next month, more recruits will join in another one-day protest. Following month, maybe even more. At some point, the message will be noticed.

That is so moronic. Go ahead and boycott your gas station today. But tomorrow it's back to normal.

Your gas station only gets fuel deliveries once a week, so he'll never even notice your protest.

42 posted on 05/19/2004 1:46:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don't think you meant to post that to me.


43 posted on 05/19/2004 1:46:57 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Dog Gone

To have an impact, we'd all have to stop driving one day a week.


44 posted on 05/19/2004 1:48:23 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: BearWash

Correct. Plenty of Saudi crude is consumed in the US


45 posted on 05/19/2004 1:50:20 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kaktuskid

>>Chavez, the nutcase who is the main reason why OPEC is cutting production

It's our friends the Saudis cuttin production. Gotta have high crude prices to keep funding the jihad.

Silly Absurd Boycotts that simply make simpleminded feebletons think they've accomplished something.

CITGO, SHMITGO, Who cares? Gas is gas. Better Venezuela than the Saudis, even if your claim is accurate IMO.


46 posted on 05/19/2004 1:56:01 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Right, or conserve in other ways. The only way to bring down prices is to either increase supply or reduce demand. Refineries are running at 97% capacity right now, which is very high, considering that maintenance must be performed. There is a limit to how much foreign gasoline we can import, because of the boutique gasoline rules.

So, reducing demand is the only leverage. Unfortunately, that can only have a limited effect because we are continuing to add to the driving population every day. Overall demand is likely to continue to grow.

And protests completely miss the point. Prices are set not by oil companies, but by the commodities market based on supply and demand.

47 posted on 05/19/2004 2:01:55 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

>>the boutique gasoline rules

Would be nice to have an EO overturning state rules and mandating uniform standards across the country.

And really, the whining is too much, gas prices are reasonable compared to the rest of the world, and there is no god given right to cheap gas.

These higher prices may help give the Saudi Royals some breathing room. The Russians aren't complaining either.


48 posted on 05/19/2004 2:07:15 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy

I don't know if an EO can override these mandates by the EPA or not, but somehow they need to be rolled back. Either that or we have to figure out a way to expand our refining capacity in this country. We already consume more gasoline than we can produce.


49 posted on 05/19/2004 2:14:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

>>a way to expand our refining capacity in this country.

Funny thing is those decrying our dependence on oil and will never let refineries be built or exploration increased in the US to help alleviate conditions, instead they ask for absurdities like draining the SPR.

And they don't believe that the Kennedy family is also an oil family, owning Mobil shares, now Exxon too.


50 posted on 05/19/2004 2:20:53 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy

Yeah, the Democrats need to explain how draining SPR would increase the gasoline supply when our refineries are already maxxed out.


51 posted on 05/19/2004 2:28:04 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

The old Geezer, Stretch here again... Remember, folks, when Al Gore sold part of our strategic oil reserve on the coast of California ---secretAly to Occidental Oil, of which he owns millions of shares. Last I heard of Occidental Oil, it was selling that oil to Russia. Remember Occidental Oil was formed by Armand Hammer... the great friend of Stalin... ???? Some of old geezers remember many things.... and keep many files of such... such as Remember Pearl Harbor as we should Remember 9/11... and never forget Hitlery and billy...who are probably responsible, and advising to this day, the terrorists of the world.


52 posted on 05/19/2004 3:01:53 PM PDT by Stretch (Stretch: The Old Geezer from Apple Va. Cal and Cumming Ga. (God's Country.) Long Live America!!)
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To: Stretch
Well, somebody gave you some bad info. There's no way any of that oil was sold to Russia. It's California heavy crude, and Russia is an oil exporter. They certainly don't want any low-quality California crude.

Armand Hammer was a great commie-lover, though.

53 posted on 05/19/2004 3:34:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

I get these boycott Exxon/Mobil emails all the time...but I think they are put out by the pro-homosexual crowd.

Exxon/Mobil is the only major gas company that does NOT offer benifits to live in homosexual partners.

Sounds like a good reason to SUPPORT them....


54 posted on 06/01/2004 7:30:38 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (Abortion: Big people killing little people)
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To: Dog Gone
Your gas station only gets fuel deliveries once a week, so he'll never even notice your protest.

Our local USA station gets 6,000 gallons delivered A DAY....

55 posted on 06/01/2004 7:51:40 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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To: Dog Gone
Prices are set not by oil companies, but by the commodities market based on supply and demand.

There's no supply and demand magic in oil prices. It's not a secret that OPEC controls the supply, therefore the price.

56 posted on 06/01/2004 8:04:32 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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To: lewislynn

And GM could make 80 million Corvettes a year. Controlling supply is not unique to OPEC.


57 posted on 06/01/2004 8:09:13 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
And GM could make 80 million Corvettes a year. Controlling supply is not unique to OPEC.

....Wouldn't that lower the price of Corvettes? Isn't that why OPEC manipulates supply? To control prices ?

58 posted on 06/01/2004 8:17:27 AM PDT by lewislynn (Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
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To: Tracker47
I don't care what it costs to produce it. I demand what I want, when I want it, at a price I want to pay. The problems involved in suppling me with this home do not concern me.

Grow up.

59 posted on 06/01/2004 8:21:44 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: lewislynn

All producers of any product manipulate supply in an effort to match demand and it has an effect on price.


60 posted on 06/01/2004 8:24:41 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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