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Satellite data confirms global warming (why, oh why, didn't we BELIEVE Algore?)
Science and Development Network ^ | May 17 2004

Posted on 05/18/2004 7:12:07 AM PDT by presidio9

For years, a discrepancy in global climate data has fuelled debate over global warming.

Temperatures in the troposphere, the first 11km of the atmosphere, have been rising slower than models predict given the rate of increase in temperature on the Earth's surface.

But polar orbiting satellites show that cooling in the stratosphere - the next layer of the atmosphere - explains the inconsistency, according to research published in Nature.

Once the effects of this stratospheric cooling have been taken into account, the scientists found that statistical analyses produced temperature trends consistent with observed surface warming and the predictions of climate change models.


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1 posted on 05/18/2004 7:12:09 AM PDT by presidio9
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Do I understand this right? They're positive of global warming because they detected some significant cooling?


2 posted on 05/18/2004 7:15:15 AM PDT by babyface00
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Once the effects of this stratospheric cooling have been taken into account, the scientists found that statistical analyses produced temperature trends consistent with observed surface warming and the predictions of climate change models.

They search through the millions of variables that affect the earth’s temperture, find the one that allows their model to reflect the actual results, and then add it to their witch’s brew of a couple dozen ingredients.

And in two years, when the data once again fails to reflect their predictions, they’ll find another variable to tweak the models again.

In this way, any real world condition always confirms the prediction.

Science!

3 posted on 05/18/2004 7:18:52 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: babyface00

Unfortunately, it appears that way.

If you need me, I'll be out in my garage working on my spaceship. I suggest you do the same.


4 posted on 05/18/2004 7:19:43 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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Being as dumb as a rock, I always thougth that God was the one that was going to destroy the earth and not man.


5 posted on 05/18/2004 7:19:52 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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ping


6 posted on 05/18/2004 7:21:57 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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the scientists found that statistical analyses produced temperature trends consistent with observed surface warming and the predictions of climate change models.

Yeah. Of course.

"Trends consistent with....", that's the key phrase.

You have three, and only three possibilities, trend up, trend down, or no change.

A trend consistent with could be up .0001 degree, or 10 degrees.

The Sky is Still Falling!!!! Come, Chicken Little, we must go and tell King Kerry!!!!!!

7 posted on 05/18/2004 7:23:38 AM PDT by Ole Okie (Those gummint research grants are still dependent on flim-flamming global warming)
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Workin' on it, but I'm having a problem getting the warp coils aligned.


8 posted on 05/18/2004 7:25:36 AM PDT by babyface00
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See, I new I was right! All I needed to do was give this dam stratospheric cooling thing a name and then ignore it. Then my global warming theory works great.

If I have anymore problems proving my theory, I will just blame it on the dimming effect on the sunlight caused by all that nasty man-made dust and stuff in the stratosphere.

Yes, that's the ticket, that's what I will do, I just know that man is destroying the planet. I will get the government to punish everyone for this - make them pay lots and lots of taxes to fix it.

I must be right, I must be right, I must be right.......
9 posted on 05/18/2004 7:25:55 AM PDT by CHUCKfromCAL
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Global warming....and I thought it was just a hot flash!
10 posted on 05/18/2004 7:27:54 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Don't Mess With Me, Mister.com)
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They search through the millions of variables that affect the earth’s temperture, find the one that allows their model to reflect the actual results, and then add it to their witch’s brew of a couple dozen ingredients.

environmental modeling: garbage in, garbage out

11 posted on 05/18/2004 7:28:13 AM PDT by Samwise (The new media motto: All the news that fits our agenda.)
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If you need me, I'll be out in my garage working on my spaceship. I suggest you do the same.

Got mine done some years back. Except for the engine...........got any ideas that might work there?

12 posted on 05/18/2004 7:31:14 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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"Workin' on it, but I'm having a problem getting the warp coils aligned."

You need to take a BFH to the coil housing.

I am presently working on the fuel injection system. Problem I am having is going to be the burn rate of Kerry/Clinton 2004 placards.



13 posted on 05/18/2004 7:31:20 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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Once the effects of this stratospheric cooling have been taken into account, the scientists found that statistical analyses produced temperature trends consistent with observed surface warming and the predictions of climate change models.

Rolling my eyes in disgust. THIS IS NOT SCIENCE. This is data manipulation to produce an assumed result. Certainly if you manipulate variables enough you can come up with the desired result. THIS IS PURE BULL CRAP, being paraded around as science to advance a political agenda. THEY MAKE ME SICK.

14 posted on 05/18/2004 7:32:22 AM PDT by Always Right
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Work faster dammit! Global Warming will cause NYC to be covered with 50ft of snow by this weekend! Never mind the inconsistency of that statement!


15 posted on 05/18/2004 7:33:50 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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Workin' on it, but I'm having a problem getting the warp coils aligned.

I see you have the older model.

16 posted on 05/18/2004 7:34:41 AM PDT by N. Theknow (John Kerry knows how to screw the rich - both his wives are millionaires)
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Satellite data confirms global warming

Correct title should be, Data Manipulation Confirms Global Warming

Isn't there one intellectually honest scientist left on this planet....

17 posted on 05/18/2004 7:35:42 AM PDT by Always Right
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Whatever you do, do not use fossil fuels.


18 posted on 05/18/2004 7:36:05 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: babyface00

I have some spare dilithium crystals if you need them.


19 posted on 05/18/2004 7:38:04 AM PDT by dmz
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In this way, any real world condition always confirms the prediction.

There's a local radio host who has the weather man read him the record high and record low temperatures every day. Afterward he always says "More proof of Global Warming." The point being, it doesn't matter what the data says. It is always proof of Global Warming.

I seriously wonder why there aren't more Bjorn Lomborgs on the left.

20 posted on 05/18/2004 7:39:32 AM PDT by Snuffington
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