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Frogs and Fish: Not the Best of Friends [Why Froggies May Be Disappearing}
NY Times ^ | May 18, 2004 | HENRY FOUNTAIN

Posted on 05/18/2004 5:50:34 AM PDT by Pharmboy

The worldwide decline in frogs and other amphibians has been well documented, though the reasons for it are less clear. Scientists have suggested many possible factors, including climate change, disease and increased exposure to ultraviolet radiation and pesticides.

But for some species, a major reason could simply be that they are being eaten — by predators introduced into their habitat. A researcher at the University of California at Berkeley has shown this to be the case for a frog in the Sierra Nevadas. The researcher, Dr. Vance T. Vredenburg of the Museum of Vertebrate Zoology at the university, demonstrated that rainbow and brook trout, introduced over the last century for sport fishing, are largely responsible for the decline of the mountain yellow-legged frog. He reported the finding in the current issue of The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

But Dr. Vredenburg wanted to show the effects of the fish without harming more frogs, which exist almost exclusively in declining populations in California mountains. "I had two choices," he said. "One was to actually introduce fish into a frog lake and watch what happens. But I couldn't do that in any conscionable manner."

Instead, Dr. Vredenburg studied what occurs when the trout are removed. Beginning in 1997, he laboriously removed the fish from five lakes in a remote region of Kings Canyon National Park in the central Sierra Nevada. In a year or two, Dr. Vredenburg found signs that frogs were returning.

To determine exactly how the fish affect the frogs, he conducted another experiment, placing a few rainbow trout in small cages in the lake and introducing some frog eggs. The trout, he found, ate the tadpoles emerging from the eggs. "The fish would sit there and pick them off one by one," he said. Taken together, Dr. Vredenburg said, the two findings provide strong direct evidence of the trout's role. "The fish in this case obviously are a major player in the decline of this frog," he said.

The solution is easy. If you want to restore the frog, just remove the fish, which the National Park Service has begun to do. "The most exciting thing about this," Dr. Vredenburg said, "is that this is one study of frog decline where we can actually do something about it."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ecosytems; environment; fisheatfrogworld; notourfault
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What?? It wasn't Bush's fault? And this from the NY Times?

Look out your window, folks, and see if any pigs fly by...

1 posted on 05/18/2004 5:50:36 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

The frogfish (Antennarius multiocellatus) suffers from divided loyalties.

2 posted on 05/18/2004 5:53:35 AM PDT by martin_fierro (I'm martin_fierro and I approved this post.)
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To: Pharmboy

There is no shortage of frogs. If there is any doubt, I challenge anyone to try and sleep in my neighborhood with their windows open.


3 posted on 05/18/2004 5:54:38 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Pharmboy

No shortage of frogs where I live out here on the farm. We are serernaded by "karaocroaky" all night. :>)


4 posted on 05/18/2004 5:54:55 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

"serernaded"

serenaded


5 posted on 05/18/2004 5:56:47 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: TommyDale

Yup. And in some place the "shortage" is turning out to be a full-scale invasion, like in Australia, or a rapid colonization like in Germany and Belgium.


6 posted on 05/18/2004 5:56:57 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Pharmboy; brothers4thID; farmfriend; arasina; Gabz

"What?? It wasn't Bush's fault? And this from the NY Times?"

Not directly, but it is indirectly. I believe if anyone is to blame, it'd be Gale Norton. She's the big business, anti-environment, oil polluting, natural resource depleting woman in charge in President Bush's cabinet. So, yes. It's most definitely President Bush's fault. :)

On another note, what is this scientist doing removing fish from there lake home? Doesn't he know they have feelings? :)


7 posted on 05/18/2004 5:57:31 AM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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That's it! I'm getting rid of my frog gig. (that's a three point spear for you peta types)

Hmmmmmm ... perhaps I can start a frog export business. We've got them all over the place. So much so that the snakes are getting fat, and numerous.

8 posted on 05/18/2004 5:57:59 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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To: Pharmboy

I was looking for something to watch on cable last night, so I was viewing the TV Guide channel that lists all the options.

Who should appear on the TV Guide channel, but Rob Reiner, criticizing the President for his environmental policies. Saying things like "We've got to get Bush out of there before he destroys the environment."

You can't even watch the "listings" on TV without having to listen to some Bush bashing!!!


9 posted on 05/18/2004 5:58:25 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Pharmboy

I thought this was about the French.

Good article anyway.


10 posted on 05/18/2004 5:58:30 AM PDT by Redcoat LI
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Laboriously removed the fish? Sounds like he did a whole lot of fishing. Now that's my kind of research!


11 posted on 05/18/2004 5:59:49 AM PDT by yawningotter
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I think this scientist has discovered something called the Predator-Prey-Cycle. More than that, this fellow has discovered that artificially changing the population on one side actually results in a change to the population on the other side! Fewer fish = More frogs! I just bet that More Fish = Fewer Frogs!

With a grant, he can probably prove that such cycles can oscillate as the populations ebb and flow. If he's lucky, Middle School biology textbooks will soon be discussing this fascinating tidbit.

12 posted on 05/18/2004 6:00:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: dawn53

"Stifle yourself, Meathead."

13 posted on 05/18/2004 6:02:17 AM PDT by Redcoat LI
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To: Pharmboy

But...but... we know that man is responsible for ALL ecological problems...


14 posted on 05/18/2004 6:24:32 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Pharmboy

Frog legs ... yum!

15 posted on 05/18/2004 6:25:03 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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Beginning in 1997, he laboriously removed the fish from five lakes in a remote region of Kings Canyon National Park in the central Sierra Nevada.

Gotta love it.........getting government grants to go fishing!!!!!

16 posted on 05/18/2004 6:27:38 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my second hand smoke.)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

We have frogs, toads, anoles, geckos, mockingbirds, etc.
It is LOUD here. And we live IN town.

We also have occasional ALLIGATORS here! In town. I guess THEY get hungry too.


17 posted on 05/18/2004 6:28:56 AM PDT by buffyt (Kerry is a Flop Flipper, he Flips Flop, all the Flop that he Flips, is well Flipped Flop!)
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To: Redcoat LI
I thought this was about the French.

If only.

18 posted on 05/18/2004 6:29:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: yawningotter

Ya beat me to it!!!! LOL!

Sure wish I could collect a paycheck for two years of fishing!!!!


19 posted on 05/18/2004 6:29:19 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my second hand smoke.)
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To: valkyrieanne

So it is YOUR fault!!! LOL


20 posted on 05/18/2004 6:30:14 AM PDT by buffyt (Kerry is a Flop Flipper, he Flips Flop, all the Flop that he Flips, is well Flipped Flop!)
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