Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Follow the Leader?: Same-Sex ‘Marriage,’ Massachusetts, and the Rest of Us
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | May 17, 2004 | Charles Colson

Posted on 05/17/2004 12:27:58 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback

Today marks the beginning of legal same-sex “marriages” in America. It begins in Massachusetts: the result of the state Supreme Court's ruling in the Goodrich case which said, “barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution.” Once again, courts are out of control.

What is happening in Massachusetts today threatens to redefine and, ultimately, permanently damage our society’s most basic institution. That being so, you would expect a huge public outcry. Unfortunately and surprisingly, that isn't happening. Congress is seeing little evidence of public outrage--not enough calls and letters to force them to act.

It amazes me since it’s clear that the impact of same-sex “marriage” won’t be limited to same-sex couples. Stanley Kurtz of the Hoover Institution has written that widespread acceptance of same-sex “marriage” will widen the already existing gap between parenthood and marriage and continue to break down the family. Countries, like Norway, that adopted same-sex “marriage” saw their rates of cohabitation and out-of-wedlock births shoot up. There’s no reason to suppose that won’t happen here.

Given what’s at stake, I believe that Christians need to make stopping the spread of same-sex “marriage” their number-one cultural priority. And we have got to let Capitol Hill know that we support the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA).

The FMA provides that “marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman.” It also provides that nothing in the United States or any state constitution shall be construed to require states to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Legal scholars tell us that this is the only way to keep other courts from following the Massachusetts Court’s lead. While activist judges can interpret statutes the way they want to, they cannot ignore straightforward language like the FMA. This is the one way we rein in activists judges and force them to conform to the will of the people.

But the time to act is now, during an election year. The entire House and one-third of the Senate are up for re-election in November. These members know that a vote against FMA can be politically damaging. So we have to push for a vote this year, not next year when the political consequences will be less grave.

There’s another reason to act now. The more marriage licenses granted to same-sex couples in Massachusetts, the more people get used to the idea of same-sex “marriage.” We begin to lose our outrage; we begin to lose our sense of perspective. If we are going to preserve traditional marriage, we must act quickly.

The Senate has announced a vote on FMA for June. House leaders have promised action this summer. Call us here at BreakPoint please (1-877-322-5527) so we can send you the materials that will help you argue this case and tell you how to contact your public officials.

At the time of our founding, Massachusetts played a critical role in defining American liberty. But no longer do we want to follow Massachusetts, not now as it is leading us into family anarchy.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: breakpoint; charlescolson; homosexualagenda; marriage; prisoners; samesexmarriages
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-30 next last
The quest for State-sanctioned humpty-hump continues.

There are a bunch of useful links at the source doc.

1 posted on 05/17/2004 12:27:59 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: agenda_express; BA63; banjo joe; Believer 1; billbears; Blood of Tyrants; ChewedGum; ...
BreakPoint/Chuck Colson Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my BreakPoint Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

2 posted on 05/17/2004 12:29:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--Grant her a divorce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback

“barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution.”

Well, what if I want to have more than one wife?  What if I want to marry my wife's sister?  Is that in violation too?  At least that has some historical context.

(FWIW- the "historical context" gamut is what I plan to work from when I spring this on the wife when I get home tonight.)

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

3 posted on 05/17/2004 12:32:46 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Rice Ashcroft in 2008!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Owl_Eagle

Just heard Howie Carr in Boston say that soon two gang members will be msrrying eachother so they don't have to tetify against eachother.He used Whitey Bulger and Steve"The Rifleman"Flemmi as examples.

A bit of a stretch,but if it saves someone from doing hard time,who knows?


4 posted on 05/17/2004 12:38:37 PM PDT by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Owl_Eagle
There might even be legal precedent soon. In February, a man and two women in Salt Lake City sued the county because they couldn't get a marriage license for the man (already married to woman #1) to marry woman #2. They cited Lawrence vs. Texas, and are climing that Lawrence requires government to "stay out of the bedroom" even in matters of marriage. Could be two or three Mrs. Eagles pretty soon if they get the right federal judge...
5 posted on 05/17/2004 12:43:42 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--Grant her a divorce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mears

During the mess in Oregon where they were issuing licenses, some guy went down to the county clerk and filed to marry his mother--he was a city employee and he wanted to get her on his health insurance. If he can marry to keep her in a hospital, why not marry your homeboy to keep him out of a prison?


6 posted on 05/17/2004 12:45:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--Grant her a divorce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Mears

I'm not a lawyer, of course, but I thought they had to be married at the time of the crime?

(I may have gotten that nugget off The Sopranos, so take it FWIW.)

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

7 posted on 05/17/2004 12:46:01 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Rice Ashcroft 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback

Civil marriage is a 3 way contract with the individuals and the state. The primary reason the state is involved is to IMPOSE obligations nor CONFER rights. It evolved because its in the best interest of the state to be sure children and widows and abandoned spouses are cared for by the spouse and not by the state. Whenever the state imposes obligations it often provides rights to offset.

Religious marriage is also a 3 way contract with God as the 3rd party. This contract IMPOSES obligations on the parties also and doesn't CONFER any special salvation or rights. Unlike the state, God only offers us to accept obligations in order to be obedient.

Common law marriage is simply the extension of the state's interest to impose obligations on parties that attempt to avoid there legal responsibilities by avoiding civil marriage. If anything common law marriage demonstrates why the government imposes obligations.





8 posted on 05/17/2004 12:46:52 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Owl_Eagle

I'm not a lawyer either,but Howie is on a roll this afternoon.


9 posted on 05/17/2004 12:47:39 PM PDT by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback

I guarantee it will come to that. I have a son who is single without health benefits.Most of his friends are married or are hard core Irish bachelors.

These guys are all secure enough in their sexual identity to get married for benefits,in my opinion.They would save themselves tons of money and then could get a quickie Tijuana divorce when they found the woman of their dreams.

Ridiculous? Maybe,but I bet it will happen.

The can of worms has been opened here in the Bay State and it's too late.


10 posted on 05/17/2004 12:53:02 PM PDT by Mears
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback
"That being so, you would expect a huge public outcry. Unfortunately and surprisingly, that isn't happening."

The huge public outcry has been occuring for a long time. Don't mistake silence at this for consent. Silent rage would be more accurate. The outcry is now at the whispering level. Listen very carefully.

11 posted on 05/17/2004 1:15:58 PM PDT by Eastbound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback
"There’s another reason to act now. The more marriage licenses granted to same-sex couples in Massachusetts, the more people get used to the idea of same-sex “marriage.” We begin to lose our outrage; we begin to lose our sense of perspective. If we are going to preserve traditional marriage, we must act quickly."

My heart is sickened.

We must come to the realization that the US now has Sodom and Gomorah on either coast with enough disruption between the shores to literally take our beloved nation over, tear up the constitution and eliminate the Christian from our land.

The muslims are (will be) shouting 5 times a day in Michigan.

God help us.

12 posted on 05/17/2004 1:24:23 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah; Mr. Silverback
Bump & Ping


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

13 posted on 05/17/2004 1:55:19 PM PDT by EdReform
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: knarf
"The muslims are (will be) shouting 5 times a day in Michigan."

The perp set will seek an advantage by serving as sword-bearers to the Islamics. The Islamics will gladly accept them as allies, and at some point the perp set will be handed their heads for their service. Neither will complain if the other dies, as they both are haters of life and members of the same death cult. The difference between them is that one, believing there is a hereafter, want to wait until after they die to fulfill their sexual fantasies, and the other, dis-believing or uncaring that there is a hereafter, want their sexual fantasies before they die.

Yes, by the way things are shaping up, something is brewing -- and it isn't Maxwell House Coffee.

14 posted on 05/17/2004 2:03:55 PM PDT by Eastbound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - A Chuck Colson editorial for your persual and reading pleasure, I admit I haven't read it yet but will later.


Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist!


15 posted on 05/17/2004 2:06:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback; All

This is shame upon this Commonwealth that I love and to which I owe my third allegiance after faith and family. I apologize to the rest of the country for this and can only hope the USSC will overturn this tyrannical decision forthwith!


16 posted on 05/17/2004 8:35:39 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VRWC_minion
Religious marriage is also a 3 way contract with God as the 3rd party.

correct

This contract IMPOSES obligations on the parties also and doesn't CONFER any special salvation or rights.

Incorrect. Sexual relations blessed by God can only occur within a marriage. anything else is fornication and breaks the covenant with God. (fornicate -> go to hell).

Unlike the state, God only offers us to accept obligations in order to be obedient.

God designed us to be joined man to wife. We are at our best and happiest when we are married (and living according to God's word). So He gives us not only obligations but incredible blessings in marriage

17 posted on 05/18/2004 5:20:22 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Silverback
That being so, you would expect a huge public outcry. Unfortunately and surprisingly, that isn't happening. Congress is seeing little evidence of public outrage--not enough calls and letters to force them to act.

What?

Dr. Dobson's "Rally for Marriage" drew tens of thousands of people to Seattle.

Of course, us FReepers are the only ones who know about it, considering that lamestream media shamefully didn't cover it one iota. Wouldn't want the sheep to realize that most normal, level-headed, God-fearing people despise this latest hack job on traditional values.

18 posted on 05/18/2004 5:58:21 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("A sword day! A red day, 'ere the sun rises!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VRWC_minion
Well said.
19 posted on 05/18/2004 6:35:19 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--Grant her a divorce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

Comment #20 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-30 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson