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Two US Soldiers injured in Sarin laced IED explosion (per Gen Kimmitt)
CENTCOM | 5/17/04

Posted on 05/17/2004 7:20:20 AM PDT by Nexus

Just now, looking for copy...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: iraq; sarin; wmd
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To: aft_lizard
Newsies are trying to pass this off as an isolated incident--that the 'insurrectionists' didn't know they had a chemical weapon [bridge for sale in Brooklyn and oceanfront property for sale in AZ alert].

They probably didn't know it had Sarin. If they had, there's a good shot they would have known that it as basically harmless unless fired out of tube artillery.

"Isolated" doesn't seem relevant, IMHO. One big reason we believed Saddam had WMD's is that a lot of shells, etc., were unaccounted for. This validates that reasoning. Also, the fact that it took more than a year for this stuff to turn up suggests that we obviously have not found all their stockpiles, and that more of it is likely to turn up.

I'd like to see those numbskulls try to mix it manually, though. Lots of dead terrorists if they try that.

261 posted on 05/17/2004 8:41:25 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: Petronski

LOL!

Besides, everyone KNOWS that Bush brought the planted weapons over when he made that top secret visit during Thanksgiving! It was disguised as that turkey that was for show.


263 posted on 05/17/2004 8:42:20 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Truth Table
Good gravy. It's so obvious Rummy planted the sarin when he sulked into IRAQ to make fun of the troops the other day. Can't ANY of you right wing morons see the truth? It's soooooooo obvious.

You are absolutely correct, it couldn't possibly have happened any other way.

Prairie

264 posted on 05/17/2004 8:42:22 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I'm sure today's group of anti-war protesters will be in full feather. I almost can't wait to walk through them!

You have to walk through a group of war protesters every day? Are they outside your work or something? I can't imagine having to do that every day. The smell of B.O. alone would be overwhelming!

265 posted on 05/17/2004 8:43:43 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Veloxherc

see my post at 244. I agree with you.


266 posted on 05/17/2004 8:44:22 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: oceanview

Hi there.

I am just abusing this thread to point out that Tony Blair just pointed out that the stories of a "quick exit from Iraq" were false.

He is live now on Sky with Turkey's Erdogan.

Cheers.


267 posted on 05/17/2004 8:44:32 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: epluribus_2
Yeah - Remember the Summer of 2001??? The biggest dangers to americans were at that time - SHARKS! and Gary Condit!!!

< sigh > Memories.

268 posted on 05/17/2004 8:44:56 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Petronski
Actual DU post, 10:25 am: "I'll wait for independent corroboration in other words, an agency outside the United States governement is required before I'll believe it."

Figures.

I've had a leftie in my neighborhood yahoo forum posting items from the "Tehran Times" stating that America was planting WMD's.

269 posted on 05/17/2004 8:45:51 AM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry's just a gigolo, and everywhere he goes, people know the part he's playing...)
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To: mdmathis6
I didn't say it would remove all toxicity. In this day and age, we are able to determine where incoming is coming from and could take it out quickly.20 years ago we had none of that capability,no drones, gps etc. The biggest threat of WMD's is not to our military but to the civilian population.Bullets, the media and bombs are our soldiers greatest threats.
270 posted on 05/17/2004 8:45:59 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: FourtySeven
You have to walk through a group of war protesters every day?

Now that the weather is good here in Seattle, the unwashed hoard will be out. They were in front of the Federal Building Friday afternoon, which is right across the street from me. Of course they were swarming all over the bus stop, making it darn near impossible to get on the bus.

They'll be out probably every day now that it's not cold and rainy. Now where did I put my Bush/Cheney yard sign...?

271 posted on 05/17/2004 8:46:58 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: Eurotwit

MSNBC web site is not even reporting this story.


272 posted on 05/17/2004 8:48:10 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: liz44040
Good parry ...

So blowing up old WMD shells in LA is acceptable...

I doubt the age of the shell exploding would vary the speed of the feet by one iota.
273 posted on 05/17/2004 8:48:30 AM PDT by snooker (John F'n Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: areafiftyone

Sometimes they shock ya w/ truth.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1128618/posts?page=299#299


274 posted on 05/17/2004 8:49:19 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: mwl1
MSNBC web site is not even reporting this story.

Oh, they are. You just have to read the small print to find it.

275 posted on 05/17/2004 8:50:16 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: mwl1
MORE THEY WILL NOT REPORT ON

========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============

Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry
. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found
at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with
leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.


========= Halabja =========

Dead children, previously playing in Halabja
Victims of Saddams' WMD in March 1988.


Also found in Iraq:

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service
that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials
working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home,
one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF),
and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in
resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission
that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles,
a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists
have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -
well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed
Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology
related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles,
and other prohibited military equipment.


Still missing based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999,
when the UN inspectors left Iraq in 1998, they had been unable to account for:

• up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent;

• up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approximately 300 tons which,
in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX;

• growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce
over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admitted to UN inspectors to having manufactured);

• over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents;

• 20 al-Hussein missles with a range of 650 km, in violation
of UN Security Council Resolution 687 (Iraq had told UNSCOM that it filled these warheads with anthrax and botulinum);

• 2,850 tons of mustard gas, 210 tons of tabun, and 795 tons of sarin and cyclosarin;

• development of the Al-Samoud short-range missle (which had the capability to fly beyond the 150 km allowed by UN resolutions)

277 posted on 05/17/2004 8:51:34 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do what we are meant to do)
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To: eastforker

Kaye was spinning that it was inevitable that there would be shells here and there with sarin (editor's note: not WMD but sarin) and that with so many depots there had to be a number of these. Somehow I bet the artillery officers whose job was to fire the right kind of shell knew where the wet ones were and where the dry ones were and under what conditions to use them. They are afraid of human rights charges for the kurdish campaigns and maybe even the iran war since the shiites are going to be running things so they have kept their mouths shut and gone into the dolma business since the invasion.


278 posted on 05/17/2004 8:52:24 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Diogenesis

Dio - you are a gem.


279 posted on 05/17/2004 8:52:47 AM PDT by Peach
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