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Two US Soldiers injured in Sarin laced IED explosion (per Gen Kimmitt)
CENTCOM | 5/17/04

Posted on 05/17/2004 7:20:20 AM PDT by Nexus

Just now, looking for copy...


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: iraq; sarin; wmd
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To: areafiftyone

I know but it's fun leading them......


221 posted on 05/17/2004 8:22:26 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: finnman69
"The round was an old binary-type requiring the mixing of two chemical components in separate sections of the cell before the deadly agent is produced," Kimmitt said. "The cell is designed to work after being fired from an artillery piece...."

"The former regime had declared all such rounds destroyed before the 1991 Gulf War," Kimmitt said...."

And thus the existence of that round itself, if tracked back to Saddam's Iraq, is yet another violation of the UN resolutions.

223 posted on 05/17/2004 8:22:30 AM PDT by steveegg (The mainstream media has more in common with Radical Islam than it does with America)
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To: areafiftyone

talk about the need for a tin foil hat!


224 posted on 05/17/2004 8:23:49 AM PDT by mondoman (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: All

piecing some statements together here . . .

the IED exploded before it could be rendered inoperable . . .

"The round was an old binary-type requiring the mixing of two chemical components in separate sections of the cell before the deadly agent is produced," Kimmitt said. "The cell is designed to work after being fired from an artillery piece."

From the first statement, I would conclude that the soldiers were attemting to disarm the IED and that it exploded.

In conjunction with the second statement, it seems unlikely that the sarin would have been created by the detonation itself [chemical agents are very hard to dispurse under ideal conditions - explosions generally destroy them instead of creating them!!].

Maybe there are a few experts here (I was in the Artillery in the early 80's, but this was not my expertise!!) who will correct me, but, the sarin needed to have been "mixed" prior to the detonation which indicates both a foreknowledge that the round contained sarin AND the knowledge of how to mix it properly . . .


225 posted on 05/17/2004 8:24:00 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: finnman69
Cough

"The former regime had declared all such rounds destroyed before the 1991 Gulf War

Cough

226 posted on 05/17/2004 8:24:15 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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Good gravy. It's so obvious Rummy planted the sarin when he sulked into IRAQ to make fun of the troops the other day. Can't ANY of you right wing morons see the truth? It's soooooooo obvious.

Bush made this up in Crawford. All part of the plan.


227 posted on 05/17/2004 8:24:41 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: PISANO
I will wager that this is a ONE or TWO DAY news story!!

Any takers?

It won't even make the NBCCBSABC Nightly News tonight.

228 posted on 05/17/2004 8:24:48 AM PDT by steveegg (The mainstream media has more in common with Radical Islam than it does with America)
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To: Peach
I think it went to Syria, most of it and we saw some of it a few weeks ago show up in that thwarted attack in Jordan

Has there been any news follow-up on that story? Lab test results? Confirmation of quantity?

229 posted on 05/17/2004 8:24:52 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Truth Table

and anyway, the UN inspectors might have found this eventually if we gave them a few more years to look...spo let's talk about abu graib


230 posted on 05/17/2004 8:25:40 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: OXENinFLA
Well I knew that was coming. :-/

It doesn't matter, nothing will ever be good enough for the leftists:

Even if we found a big cache of nukes in Iraq, it wouldn't take away the fact that Bush claimed knowledge about when, in fact, he didn't know.

231 posted on 05/17/2004 8:26:28 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Welcome home Thomas Hamill !!!)
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To: Nexus

Newsies are trying to pass this off as an isolated incident--that the 'insurrectionists' didn't know they had a chemical weapon [bridge for sale in Brooklyn and oceanfront property for sale in AZ alert].

We will know if more Sarin-laced IED are found soon. Until then, shoebomber Reid acted alone and Muhammad and Malvo were 2 white guys in a white van.


232 posted on 05/17/2004 8:26:44 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Bump!


233 posted on 05/17/2004 8:27:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kidd

The only thing I've seen as a follow up was a CNN broadcast. I think it was David Eisner and he said the VX Nerve Gas was the most troubling of the 71 or 72 chemicals that were found. He saw the stuff and showed pictures.

Could have easily killed over 80,000, he said and injured hundreds of thousands. Blindness and lung disease would have resulted for those who lived but were in the blast area.


234 posted on 05/17/2004 8:27:12 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

pool: which alphabet soup news agency will be the first to use WMD to describe this find? If the story has legs, they will have to eventually. They are dutifully NOT using WMD because they know it's use will instantly add 10 points to W's approval numbers.


235 posted on 05/17/2004 8:29:37 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: TomGuy

No doubt the "newsies" will totally discount their own confidence that this is an "isolated incident" and counsel their travels in and around Iraq on the side of safety.


236 posted on 05/17/2004 8:30:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: OXENinFLA
So... we planted it, huh? Injured our own guys with sarin just to justify an illegal, immoral war? How twisted are people who would even consider such a thing?

I'm sure today's group of anti-war protesters will be in full feather. I almost can't wait to walk through them!

237 posted on 05/17/2004 8:30:44 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: Nexus

Possible CNN/MSNBC spin:

"Coming up next, Donald Rumsfeld visits Iraq and SUDDENLY we find WMDs. Could this be a new Bush campaign strategy?"


238 posted on 05/17/2004 8:31:14 AM PDT by bholaway
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To: epluribus_2

I don't think any of the alphabet news agencies (Old Media) used the term WMD when describing the thwarted Jordan attack either.

71 or 72 chemicals and vials including VX Nerve gas were found, could have killed 80,000 and injured hundreds of thousands and they DIDN'T use the word WMD. Amazing.


239 posted on 05/17/2004 8:31:21 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Veloxherc; liz44040
Atropine will not result in lasting damage to the victim as long as it is not given to excess.

The prefilled dosing pen that they have is well within a safe dose for this type of exposure.

Atropine is used for lots of things. For dangerously low heart rate, organophosphate poisoning and it is even used in prescription diarrhea medicine.
240 posted on 05/17/2004 8:31:28 AM PDT by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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