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Iran leader condemns US 'stupidity'
BBC News ^ | Sunday, 16 May, 04 | BBC Monitoring

Posted on 05/17/2004 12:49:03 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

Iranian Supreme leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has condemned what he described as the "stupid" and "shameless" actions of US troops in the Iraqi Shia holy cities of Najaf and Karbala.

He said the abuse of prisoners in Iraq showed that the US had merely taken the place of Saddam Hussein, and that it was time for them to leave the "bog of their own making".

The following are excerpts from his remarks, delivered in a speech to theology students and broadcast by Iranian radio:

No Muslim, particularly a Shia, can remain calm in the face of the recent events in Najaf and Karbala...

[The US soldiers] have taken their tanks and artillery and armed forces to the holy site of Karbala. They have shown disrespect to the sacred dome of the Lord of the Faithful. They have fired bullets at the dome. That is not something that faithful Muslims can tolerate or accept...

The Americans have combined stupidity with shamelessness. They are audacious and unrestrained. They are encroaching upon the people's sanctities and what the people love...

Muslim people, particularly Shia - in our own country or in Iraq, in various Iraqi cities or in other parts of the world - will not remain silent at this American encroachment and audacity...

They think they can rule Iraq without any difficulty, take Iraq's oil and humiliate the Iraqi people. What happened at Abu Ghraib prison showed this, and recently it became clear that this has not happened only at Abu Ghraib. It has happened at all, or at least most, American prisons in Iraq...

The president and the gang ruling America say they did not know what was going on. That is how they have apologised. They say they did not know and that they have closed Saddam's torture chambers...

You have not closed Saddam's torture chambers. You have replaced Saddam...

They say they did not know. They are lying, because the Red Cross explicitly declared that it had informed senior army officers and Americans of what was going on a long time ago...

It was wrong for the Americans to go into Iraq. It was wrong for them to stay. Their treatment of the people was wrong. Imposing an American ruler on the people was wrong. Going to Karbala and Najaf was wrong. The things that they did recently were especially wrong. They should realise that the Islamic world, and particularly the Shia world, will not remain silent...

They have killed the innocent people of Najaf and Karbala. The have killed dozens of people. The crime that they have committed is the greatest of crimes. The Islamic world condemns it. The Iranian nation condemns it. The world's Shia condemn it.

The Americans will fail on this path. The more they go along this path, the more they will sink in this bog of their own making...

The Americans are trapped. There is nothing they can do. They will fail if they continue along this path, and they will fail if they pull out. But continuing will be the greater defeat.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abuse; americans; battle; bush; iran; iraq; islam; kerbala; khamenei; leader; military; mullah; najaf; oil; prison; saddam; shia; shiite; southwestasia; stupid; troops; unrest; usa
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1 posted on 05/17/2004 12:49:04 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Question: what the hell makes a city a "holy city"? Seems every town we put the squeeze on a terrorist group is some sort of frickin' "holy city" over there.

If the damned city is so gosh-darn-almighty "holy," then why aren't these Muslim jackwits complaining about terrorists messing it up? Seems they only consider those "holy" cities defiled when law & order is restored by Americans.

2 posted on 05/17/2004 12:53:02 AM PDT by Prime Choice (I'd question John Kerry's patriotism if I thought for a moment he had any...)
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To: F14 Pilot; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; SLB
Wordsmithing has clearly become the ammunition of losers........foreign and domestic.

Stay safe Ya'll !

3 posted on 05/17/2004 12:53:54 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; dixiechick2000; onyx; Pro-Bush; ...

DANG !


4 posted on 05/17/2004 12:55:00 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot

Well at least we didn`t write books. That gets you a fatwah.


5 posted on 05/17/2004 12:55:21 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: Prime Choice
If the damned city is so gosh-darn-almighty "holy," then why aren't these Muslim jackwits complaining about terrorists messing it up?

Because terrorism seems to be a big part of their "religion."

6 posted on 05/17/2004 12:55:23 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: F14 Pilot

This guy sounds like a moderate compared to our own Senator Kennedy.


7 posted on 05/17/2004 12:55:40 AM PDT by samtheman (www.georgewbush.com)
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To: Rokurota
Because terrorism seems to be a big part of their "religion."

Shh! Not so loud. The PC police will have us incarcerated in a no-smoking, no-red-meat cell if they hear that.

Now repeat after me, citizen: Islam is a religion of peace...Islam is a religion of peace...Islam is a religion of peace...

(What totally sucks about all this is that some people actually buy that Islam = peace claptrap.)

8 posted on 05/17/2004 12:58:26 AM PDT by Prime Choice (I'd question John Kerry's patriotism if I thought for a moment he had any...)
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To: samtheman
Yep, the Ayatollah sounds pro-American by comparison.
9 posted on 05/17/2004 12:58:35 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Squantos
"Stupid is as stupid does."
10 posted on 05/17/2004 12:58:50 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: samtheman; Mr. Mojo

LoL!!!!!!


11 posted on 05/17/2004 1:00:21 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims
It was wrong for the Americans to go into Iraq. It was wrong for them to stay. Their treatment of the people was wrong. Imposing an American ruler on the people was wrong. Going to Karbala and Najaf was wrong. The things that they did recently were especially wrong.

And this is right........

7th February 1998 TEHRAN - Rushdie Must Die as a Lesson says Speaker

The Speaker of the Iranian Parliament says he hopes Muslims will kill British author Salmmi Rushdie as a lesson to "those who oppose God and God's prophets." Ali Akbar Nateq-Nouri , was speaking in Parliament te mark the ninth anniversary of the fatwa (religious ruling) issued by the late Iranian spiritual leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. An Iranian newspaper said the country's Revolutionary Guards had issued a statement supporting the fatwa. "The statement described the fatwa as irrevocable and emphasised that Rushdie should be:; punished for his scandalous action said the Persian-language Farda newspaper. Ayatollah Khomeird's fatwah condemned -Rushdie to death for alleged blasphemy against Islam in his novel The Satanic Verses and said any Muslim in a position to kill the author had a duty to do so. Rushdie has since been in hiding. An Iranian group which promised a $US2.5 million (increased in Feb 97) reward to anyone who kills Rushdie was reported to have said it was considering increasing the bounty. REUTERS, IRNA Rushdie is currently writing "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" for completion in 1999, for which he is receiving a $2.3 million advance. This position concerning Rushdie contrasts sharply with Khatami's declared intention of establishing cultural ties with the West as illustrated in the cartoon below.

12 posted on 05/17/2004 1:01:16 AM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims (I`m still waiting for the protests against terrorism.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Report: Iran on verge of nuclear breakthrough

Jerusalem Post ^ | May. 16, 2004 | AP

Posted on 05/17/2004 12:32:07 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

Iran is on the verge of a nuclear breakthrough, but not in the area of weapons, former President Hashemi Rafsanjani said Sunday, criticizing the United States for misleading the world about Iran's intentions.

"Americans are frightening the world that Iran is on the verge of a huge nuclear breakthrough," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Rafsanjani as saying. "That we are on the verge of a nuclear breakthrough is true. But we are not seeking nuclear weapons."

Rafsanjani, still a powerful figure in Iran and widely believed to have inside knowledge about Iran's controversial nuclear program, gave no further comments.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136900/posts


13 posted on 05/17/2004 1:04:12 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: F14 Pilot
LOL........Ya'd think the world would see em for what they really are yet they have devout followers. Doom on all Islamakazis !

Stay Safe !

14 posted on 05/17/2004 1:13:34 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Sorry, but Senator Blowfish Kennedy was the first with that line.

Kennedy: Saddam's torture chambers are under new management. American management.


15 posted on 05/17/2004 1:23:10 AM PDT by MN_Mike (In Pelosi, Kerry and the Blow Fish (Kennedy) We Mis-Trust)
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To: F14 Pilot

Sorry, but Senator Blowfish Kennedy was the first with that line.

Kennedy: Saddam's torture chambers are under new management. American management.


16 posted on 05/17/2004 1:23:17 AM PDT by MN_Mike (In Pelosi, Kerry and the Blow Fish (Kennedy) We Mis-Trust)
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To: Prime Choice
Their holy cities are defiled when infidel Americans come through. Destruction of buildings and people matter not to the advocates of Islam.

Haven't you read the edicts from Imam that muslims should not speak badly of other muslims?

17 posted on 05/17/2004 1:25:33 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: F14 Pilot

When we hand over power June 30th they're going to claim victory, that they drove us out. Not pretty.


18 posted on 05/17/2004 1:26:12 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: MN_Mike

Then we get to this conclusion THAT "There are links between DemocRATs and the Mullahs in Iran.


19 posted on 05/17/2004 1:26:53 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: samtheman
Ted Kennedy needs to be tried for treason. This mimicking of the Senator shows how he has provided aid and comfort to the enemy.

Unless the Morons at MoveOn.Org want to announce a high profile effort to see Senator Kennedy censured.

20 posted on 05/17/2004 1:27:25 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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