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Sorensen booed at Oswego graduation (JFK hack disses Bush - gets booed...)
Syracuse.com/The Post-Standard ^ | May 16, 2004 | Delen Goldberg

Posted on 05/16/2004 5:45:34 PM PDT by veronica

A keynote speaker at State University College at Oswego's graduation ceremony Saturday was drowned out by booing, hissing and foot-stomping after he criticized President Bush.

Theodore C. Sorensen, a lawyer and author who served as special counsel to President Kennedy, never said Bush's name. But he took the president to task for going on vacation after warnings of terrorist attacks surfaced, declaring war without allied support and gloating about a victory.

Sorensen compared the ways Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 to the methods Bush used to handle the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"President Kennedy did not proceed unilaterally, without obtaining the support of our allies and without recourse to the United Nations," he said.

As Sorensen spoke, one student's mother stood up and ordered him off the stage. A graduate yelled, "Are you serious?" but another quickly chimed in, "Let the man finish his speech."

The noise got so loud that Sorensen, who spoke into a microphone, at times could not be heard. More than half his speech was overpowered by audience rumbling and shouting.

College President Deborah F. Stanley moved next to Sorensen as he spoke through the chaos. Stanley thanked the audience for being respectful "in a place where ideas, information and understanding reign supreme." She said after the ceremony that her comment was as much a criticism as a compliment.

"People, I think, understand that Mr. Sorensen has led a political and policy-oriented life," Stanley said. "But the way he chose to express that was, perhaps, surprising."

"It was just like a slap in the face," said Mary Sheldon, of Lorraine, Jefferson County, whose daughter Johanna Besaw graduated Saturday with an English degree. "We came here to be supportive of our kids and their achievements. It wasn't the time or the place for politics."

Sheldon's son, David Dreier, 25, received notice Thursday that he will be shipping out to Iraq with the National Guard. The family left Romney Field House, where the ceremony was held, midway through Sorensen's speech.

Charlie Vecchio, 25, a former army soldier originally from Manlius, disagreed with Sorensen's views but had more of a problem with the audience.

"People's reactions were a little outrageous," he said. "I have friends who died so we could say what we want. That's part of why our soldiers are over there, for our right to freedom of speech."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: booed; bushhaters; commencement; jfk; sorensen
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To: Unam Sanctam

Sorensen has a First Amendment right to say what he wants but the audience has the right to express itself as well. I agree that manners should normally prevail, and I prefer to hear those I disagree with. However, I am also tired of the left going unchallenged when they utter their nonsense. Both sides exercised free expression.

I guess Sorensen knows deep in his heart, in places he doesn't talk about it, that some people want the U.S. military on that wall, he needs them on that wall to paraphrase Colonel Jessup from "A Few Good Men."


21 posted on 05/16/2004 5:56:01 PM PDT by Harris
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To: veronica
It's obvious that people are sick and tired of graduation speeches being turned into political events -- whether from the right or the left.

There's not a thing wrong with congratulating graduates for their achievement, inspiring them to future success, and leaving it at that.

22 posted on 05/16/2004 5:56:02 PM PDT by BfloGuy (u)
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To: sathers

I for one do not blame them. How
dare he ruin their occasion of
family, pride, love and hope with
such a mean diatribe against the
President. Good for them!


23 posted on 05/16/2004 5:56:36 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Unam Sanctam

It's a new day,people are better informed,not buying the same old lib b.s.,or maybe just speaking up more.Does my heart good to see stories like this.


24 posted on 05/16/2004 5:57:07 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over our Military men and women who serve to keep us free.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I don't think it is a disgrace at all and I applaud them all...this day is about the graduates, it is not about some dopes political agenda and these idiots who speak, or I should say are invited to speak at these functions seem to forget it.

Don't you hate going to a wedding reception when the leader of the band or the DJ has to be the focus of attention?

Same thing here; these students worked hard to get their diploma's and they are the focus (or at least should be), not some idiot who spews mindless and hateful rhetoric!
25 posted on 05/16/2004 5:57:09 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

We are at war. It seems the audience realized that and the speaker did not.


26 posted on 05/16/2004 5:57:12 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Wrong - I guarantee you that if my daughter's graduation gets turned into a political event I will participate as appropriate.


27 posted on 05/16/2004 5:58:29 PM PDT by Frapster (Biscuits & Gravy Extraordinair)
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To: Unam Sanctam
"I think the behavior of the crowd is a disgrace"

Hogwash. Politicizing a graduation ceremony is an insult to the kids and the parents. This is their day, not the political hack's day.
28 posted on 05/16/2004 5:59:19 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: veronica
"People's reactions were a little outrageous," he said. "I have friends who died so we could say what we want. That's part of why our soldiers are over there, for our right to freedom of speech."

I'm always a bit bewildered by the idea that free speech is so often identified as that of the speaker. Why isn't, "Booooooo! Booooooo! Get this Jackass out of here!" also considered free speech?

It's most often the Conservatives that are yelled off of the stage on college campuses - so this story is refreshing. However, I don't consider someone getting yelled off of stage a violation of that person's free speech - I just consider it a little nutty. On the other hand, I'm not sure how long I could quietly sit by and listen to someone like Franken spew lies either.
29 posted on 05/16/2004 5:59:30 PM PDT by Jaysun (If a person says that he enjoys the opera, that person is a liar.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I think the behavior of the crowd is a disgrace. Perhaps withhold applause, but don't drown out what the speaker is saying. This is 10 times more likely to happen with a conservative speaker and a liberal audience, and we would be denouncing the crowd in such a case.

Couldn't agree with you - LESS.

After the outright slander, abuse, scorn, derision, ridicule, faux commission hearings, stone-walling of judicial appointments, calls for assassination and other items on the liberal/progressive agenda it is long overdue for them to receive the cold hard slap of reality.

They have never and will never respond to civil discourse unless they control all avenues of debate and discussion.

Praise the times we live in where truth can reach fellow conservatives that they are not alone.

Withhold applause?

By all means, yes, withhold applause.

You can't clap when you're throwing rotten tomatoes.

30 posted on 05/16/2004 5:59:41 PM PDT by N. Theknow (John Kerry knows how to screw the rich - both his wives are millionaires)
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To: sinkspur

Absolutely.

The grads and their parents, etc., have more of a right to enjoy the ceremony than that old fool has to use the platform for a political diatribe.

Rude? Yeah, Ted -- not the audience.


31 posted on 05/16/2004 5:59:49 PM PDT by altura (Sometimes the ground hits me hard. I don't fall, but if I do, it's your fault.)
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To: veronica

I agree. The man got called on the carpet. We do live in a country where we have a voice and the parents and kids were expressing theirs. Nothing wrong with that.


32 posted on 05/16/2004 5:59:59 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Unam Sanctam
Nah..... the shouting and stomping is GREAT!!! It's just freedom of speech. I think most of us are sick and tired of the libs doing this to conservatives and payback is a BEEEEEAAAAAATTCCHH!!!

by the way, it's about time the conservatives started doing this to liberal, whiny, b#tches. It just seems that libs get to shout down conservatives and no conservatives have the stones to do the same to the liberal speakers.. I say

Let the shouting begin.

I am declaring a "Jihad".. hahahahahaha Yep that's it, I hereby declare a fatwa on lib speakers at graduations.

It is written that those who jihad against liberals WON't get virgins... nope they'll get 72 members of the Sweedish bikini team or the Coors light twins to comfort them in Valhalla.... YEAH!!!!

33 posted on 05/16/2004 6:00:38 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: veronica; yooper; lewislynn; KellyAdmirer

Many the time we conservatives have accused liberals of promoting "free speech for me but not for thee." Apparently many Freepers actually hold the same principles and feel that drowning out a liberal speaker is perfectly acceptable, even if what he says is wrong and unpopular. And while what Sorensen said is despicable, it hardly amounts to the Michael Moore level of obnoxiousness.


34 posted on 05/16/2004 6:00:56 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Hey guess what, the audience has the same right to free speech.If you don't like what is being preached , let them know about it.The right of free speech does not guarantee the right to be heard.
35 posted on 05/16/2004 6:01:33 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Unam Sanctam
I think the behavior of the crowd is a disgrace. Perhaps withhold applause, but don't drown out what the speaker is saying. This is 10 times more likely to happen with a conservative speaker and a liberal audience, and we would be denouncing the crowd in such a case.

People have the right NOT to be lectured to--It's called freedom of speech. There is no need to be forced to sit and listen to BS. Stop whining.

36 posted on 05/16/2004 6:01:54 PM PDT by bfree (Liberals are EVIL!!!)
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To: veronica
going on vacation after warnings of terrorist attacks surfaced

I hate to break this to the libs, but one reason to get the President out of Washington is better security. Also these days, you can work from most anywhere.

Now for the big kick in the teeth to the commie left. World leaders visit here sometime and it can't be broadcast thanks to 9/11. More than you hear about stay at the President's Crawford, Texas ranch. The Clinton's turned Camp David into a dump and the White House became a for rent motel thanks to them. President Bush is able to show these leaders the hospitality of our nation by offering his own house for some stays. All the tax sucking Clintons could offer is a nice hotel or staying with other rich people, something the leaders could do on their own.

37 posted on 05/16/2004 6:02:30 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Just because liberals infringe conservative free speech, two wrongs do not make a right. Drowning out speech is not free speech.


38 posted on 05/16/2004 6:02:43 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: veronica

Sorensen is a liar and a scumbag.
But worse, he's a boring writer, too.


39 posted on 05/16/2004 6:03:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Unam Sanctam
Drown him out?

They were simply expressing their appreciation of his opinion.

40 posted on 05/16/2004 6:03:54 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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