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The Politics of Cockfighting
New York Times ^ | 5.16.2004 | John Tierney

Posted on 05/15/2004 6:52:24 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick

POLITICAL POINTS

The Politics of Cockfighting

By JOHN TIERNEY

SHOULD cockfighting be legal? Should it be regulated at the state or federal level? And exactly where, in the moral hierarchy, does it rank in relation to hog-dog rodeos?

Perhaps you have not spent a lot of time contemplating these ethical quandaries. But since cockfighting is now a political issue that might help determine control of the United States Senate next year, you may want to get up to speed.

The Louisiana Legislature is considering a bill to ban hog-dog rodeos, in which a boar, after having its tusks cut off, is chased around a pen by a pit bull. The proposed ban is not especially controversial — it has passed one chamber and is expected to pass the other soon — but it has helped renew another debate. Why, if it is wrong for a dog to fight a hog, is it still legal in Louisiana for roosters to go after each other with blades attached to their legs? Hog-dog fans (yes, there are a few) indignantly protest that while the hog usually survives their event (because handlers intervene once the dog has the hog between his teeth), fighting roosters often kill each other.

One of the Democrats running for the Senate in Louisiana, John Kennedy, has come out against cockfighting and criticized one of his rivals, Representative Chris John, who once called cockfighting a "cultural, family-type thing" and opposed efforts in Congress to ban the interstate shipment of fighting birds. A political action committee run by Wayne Pacelle, the chief executive of the Humane Society of the United States, is also taking aim at Mr. John. A poll commissioned by the Humane Society showed that 82 percent of Louisianans favored banning cockfights.

Mr. John, understandably, seems reluctant to be labeled the cockfighting candidate. "They're trying to make this a campaign issue, but it really isn't one," said his campaign manager, Scott Arceneaux. "Chris has taken no position on the state law. He has simply been against federal legislation that would outlaw the practice. He believes this is an issue for the states to decide."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: animalrights; cockfighting; electionussenate; statesrights
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1 posted on 05/15/2004 6:52:25 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: cyborg

I figured the title alone should draw you in here. ;D


2 posted on 05/15/2004 6:52:59 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

I wish I had one to fight.


3 posted on 05/15/2004 6:54:13 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: NYC GOP Chick

I thought this was going to be a thread about Barney Frank.


4 posted on 05/15/2004 6:54:28 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: cyborg

Yes, you'd be all over it!


5 posted on 05/15/2004 6:55:05 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: GreenHornet

Why would he fight them?!


6 posted on 05/15/2004 6:55:20 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

;;-)


7 posted on 05/15/2004 6:56:01 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: NYC GOP Chick

And it did... but for some reason I thought it was another article about "Slick Willy" himself...


8 posted on 05/15/2004 6:57:36 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: NYC GOP Chick

When I first heard the term 'cockfighting' I figured it was a duel at close range by two guys. Odd the impressions a fourth grader may have.


9 posted on 05/15/2004 6:58:47 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: NYC GOP Chick

The sport of the small man. Embarrassing that there has to be a law.


10 posted on 05/15/2004 7:00:11 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: Hand em their arse
but for some reason I thought it was another article about "Slick Willy" himself...

Nah. That would be an article about chicken choking!

11 posted on 05/15/2004 7:00:21 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Best chicken soup I ever had was at a cock fight.

Sorry Mom the Latinos in Sierra Vista beat you out.

yours was the best when I had a cold!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

12 posted on 05/15/2004 7:01:29 PM PDT by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: alloysteel
When I first heard the term 'cockfighting' I figured it was a duel at close range by two guys.


13 posted on 05/15/2004 7:03:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (This is a tag: </> This is a Line ---------)
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To: cyborg

I used to work at one of these things. I was a cock teaser at RoosterRama. My job was to enrage the bantams. Into the pit.....what a fight!!


14 posted on 05/15/2004 7:04:50 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

LOL


15 posted on 05/15/2004 7:05:30 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: NYC GOP Chick

"One of the Democrats running for the Senate in Louisiana, John Kennedy"

Please tell me he has relatives in Massachusetts.


16 posted on 05/15/2004 7:06:07 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: GreenHornet

I thought this was going to be a thread about Barney Frank.




Dick Army came to mind dont now why hes not gay


17 posted on 05/15/2004 7:07:25 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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"Representative Chris John, who once called cockfighting a "cultural, family-type thing"

Well let's see, here I sit on a Saturday night... I have my two boys this weekend and I am quite torn as to what to do tomorrow Chick??? I'm in between taking them to play mini golf, a late afternoon movie or this "cultural, family-type COCKFIGHT!!!" Where do they GROW these people???? Are ya kidding??


18 posted on 05/15/2004 7:07:31 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: johniegrad

"I was a cock teaser at RoosterRama"

I KNEW THAT WAS YOU!!!!!!!


19 posted on 05/15/2004 7:10:48 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Hand em their arse
Well let's see, here I sit on a Saturday night... I have my two boys this weekend and I am quite torn as to what to do tomorrow Chick??? I'm in between taking them to play mini golf, a late afternoon movie or this "cultural, family-type COCKFIGHT!!!" Where do they GROW these people???? Are ya kidding??

Well, if you were trailer park trash, then you might consider it "cultural," I suppose...

20 posted on 05/15/2004 7:20:22 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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