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How much downside? Quantifying the relative harm from tobacco taxation. (Taxes will Kill you!!)
Pubmed ^ | June 2004 | Wilson N, Thomson G, Tobias M, Blakely T.

Posted on 05/15/2004 9:18:03 AM PDT by qam1

Public health physician, Wellington, New Zealand. Department of Public Health, Wellington School of Medicine and Health Sciences, University of Otago, New Zealand. New Zealand Ministry of Health, Wellington.

OBJECTIVE: To estimate the loss of life expectancy attributable to tobacco taxation (via financial hardship and flow-on health effect) in New Zealand.

DESIGN: Data were used on the gradients in life expectancy and smoking by neighbourhood socioeconomic deprivation and survey data on tobacco expenditure. Three estimates were modelled of the percentage of the crude association of neighbourhood deprivation with life expectancy that might be mediated via financial hardship: 100%, 50%, and 25% (best estimate). From this information the impact of tobacco taxation on life expectancy was estimated.

Main results: For the total population, the estimated loss of life expectancy due to tobacco tax ranged from 0.005 years to 0.027 years. For people living in the most deprived 30% of neighbourhoods, the range was 0.009 to 0.044 years (that is, 3 to 16 days of lost life expectancy). For the total population the loss of life expectancy attributable to tobacco tax ranged from 119 to 460 times less than that attributable to deprivation. The loss of life expectancy attributable to tobacco tax was 42 to 257 times less than that attributable to smoking.

CONCLUSIONS: The estimated harm to life expectancy from tobacco taxation (via financial hardship) is orders of magnitude smaller than the harm from smoking. Although the analyses involve a number of simplistic assumptions, this conclusion is likely to be robust. Policy makers should be reassured that tobacco taxation is likely to be achieving far more benefit than harm in the general population and in socioeconomically deprived populations.

PMID: 15143110 [PubMed - in process]


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: cigarettes; deathandtaxes; niconazis; pufflist; smoking; tobacco
My take of this seems to be cigarette taxes end up reducing lifespan but it OK because smokers are already dying earlier anyhow.

Hmmm. I wonder how much high income taxes take off your life.

1 posted on 05/15/2004 9:18:04 AM PDT by qam1
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To: *puff_list; lockjaw02; Madame Dufarge; SheLion; Gabz; Flurry; Mears; Just another Joe; ...
Cigarette Taxes will lead you to an early grave PING
2 posted on 05/15/2004 9:20:17 AM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1

My take is that if you are poor, then you have less access to top medical care, you have a cheaper car, live in a dirtier, more dangerous neighborhood, more stress over money, etc.

The cigarette taxes the poor more, but the study says the tax makes the poor poorer and reduces their life span but not as much as smoking.

The real kicker in the article is that taxes makes people poorer and thus die earlier. OR THE GOVT. IS KILLING US ALL THROUGH TAXES AND THAT IS LITERAL AND NOT A FIGURATIVE STATEMENT.


3 posted on 05/15/2004 9:30:50 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: qam1
Cigarette taxes have nothing to do with health. They are simply a means of raising tax revenue by taxing "sins". People shouldn't smoke therefore we can tax them for their own good to keep them from smoking too much. Ditto for drinking. It is a painless way to raise taxes because legislators can sanctimoniously say it isn't to tax but save these people from death and disease by keeping them from smoking.

The hypocrisy is that if smoking were such an absolute danger to health and medical costs why not ban smoking? No legislator seriously wants this because it would take away a significant hunk of their tax revenue.

4 posted on 05/15/2004 9:46:22 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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SHEESH........................and it's takes taxpayer money to figure this out?????????


5 posted on 05/15/2004 9:58:50 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my second hand smoke.)
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To: The Great RJ
I'm willing to bet that our Congeressional and Senatorial smokers buy all their smokes at a government sponsored tax free shop.

When remodeling a few years ago, we found some circa 1919/1920 newspapers from the eve of Prohibition excoriating the Maine Congressional delegation for booze hoarding while lording it over the common folks.
;O)

6 posted on 05/15/2004 9:59:41 AM PDT by metesky (You will be diverse, just like us.)
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To: qam1

It's a matter of morality, not a matter of life expectancy.


7 posted on 05/15/2004 10:01:13 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: staytrue

It seems to me that such waste of taxpayer funds should be halted and instead used to do something productive for the poor - instead of wasting it and taking more from them. maybe start with more affordable health care, more law enforcement, etc., etc.,


Please don't get me wrong - I am not a proponent of bigger government or higher taxes.......I'm just totally against just wasteful uses of higher taxes that always lead to bigger government. Vicious cycle.


8 posted on 05/15/2004 10:06:46 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my second hand smoke.)
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and it's takes taxpayer money to figure this out?????????

Yeah, And I guess from the study we can conclude that since it used taxpayer money just running this study took a couple hours off everybody in New Zealand's life.

Hmmm. We already have Third Hand Smoke and we know it's a killer so I guess we can call these useless studies that cause us to lose time off our lives fourth hand smoke.

9 posted on 05/15/2004 10:14:15 AM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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The sad thing is there are actually people who believe all the crapola........................they are the types that are supporting ketchup boy and looking to destroy America.


10 posted on 05/15/2004 10:47:33 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my second hand smoke.)
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To: qam1

Another study that is a big,fat waste of time.

Fun to read,though.Gave me a good laugh but I doubt that's what the geniuses who did this study intended.


11 posted on 05/15/2004 11:20:47 AM PDT by Mears
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Hmmm. I wonder how much high income taxes take off your life.

FORK EM ALL - ROLL YOUR OWN!

12 posted on 05/15/2004 1:41:22 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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