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To: discostu
the article doesn't present enough facts to know if the person should have been arrested.

Precisely, so you can only go by the article, not "facts" you imagine.

I am sticking to the article,

Umm, your comment belies that.

Freedom of speech does NOT include time, place, and audience, it never has and it never will and anybody that thinks it does needs to take a remedial reading lesson.

Please refrain from veiled personal attacks.

You reserve the right to hold up all the rude signs your little hands can hold, and I reserve the right to tell you to get the hell out of my way, and I see no problem with George Bush or even Bill Clinton telling you to get the hell out of their way.

They can tell me whatever they want, until they do something about it, they are within their rights.

Yes you do have a right to hold up rude signs. What you don't have is the right to hold them up at the time and place of your chosing forcing the audience of your choice to read them.

Nonsense. A public place where people are allowed to greet politicians it is allowed in a free society to express whatever they want, adoration or derision. No one is being forced to read any sign.

Your suggestion would allow idolaters to show up when politicians are present and restrict protesters to places and times of day when they are not present. That is a bizarre concept of free expression of political speech in America.

190 posted on 05/14/2004 10:44:20 AM PDT by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Protagoras

I'm not imagining facts. You're the one ass-u-ming that the person was doing nothing other than standing around holding a sign, I'm recognizing that people that hold protest signs also have the capacity to do other things and those things might be illegal. It is not innately wrong to arrest people who are holding signs, there are reasons for arresting people who are holding signs that have absolutely nothing to do with the first ammendment. And since the article lacks depth I refuse to ass-u-me that this person was in 100% compliance with all of the laws of the city, state and nation he was standing in.

No personal attack at all. People that think they have a right defined in the First Ammendment to stand where they want when they want and yell at the people they want need to take remedial reading lessons because they clearly don't have the reading comprehension necessary to understand the short simple sentences in the First Ammendment. Whether or not that list includes you or anybody else on this thread isn't for me to decide.

Actually they're within their rights when they do something about it. Welcome to the real world, crowd control is LEGAL.

Nonsense, you have no right to "greet" politicians anywhere, in public or private.

"Idolators" BWAHAHZHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Hyperbole much?! Welcome to reality. You have a right to express yourself, but you do NOT hve a right to create a public nuisance, you do NOT have a right to be published, you do NOT have a right to obstruct a public throughway, you do NOT have a right to violate community decency standards, you do NOT in fact even have a right to be heard. That is the reality of the First Ammendment and the sooner you learn it the sooner you'll be comfortable living in the real world.


204 posted on 05/14/2004 11:03:38 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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