Posted on 05/13/2004 11:38:29 PM PDT by weegee
D.I.Y. is punk's anthem. DO IT YOURSELF. How does sucking on the national dole/social net teat promote that? Even Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols railed against it.
I remember reading something a few years ago in which the writer was claiming that the Sex Pistols were anti-Thatcher and were formed rise up to sing against what her policies wrought....except for the fact that they were founded at least a year prior to her becoming PM -- and Labour was in charge then. Not that the left ever lets the truth get in the way of their agenda...
Wow! Thanks for waking me up to the new stuff.
Back around '90, I was acquainted with Cecil English, Vancouver producer of Jello Biafra and the Dead Kennedys, and many other new groups. I was fronting production costs for some musician pals{palmy days!).
I like hanging out with musicians - they make me feel responsible and sober!
Personally, I'm a rockabilly and blues man. ;^)
FYI - thought you might find this interesting. :)
I still want to talk about records some time, I have just been very busy. Please don't sell any good nuggets before letting me make you an offer!
dudes, thanks for the ping to this thread.
Another article on news.google.com claims that punk rock STARTED in England with the Clash and the Sex Pistols.
As I say, I used this thread to refute claims and clarrify some details in this representative article.
Link Wray F*ng rules.
LMAO....Rocks best live band, dittoheads...whodathunkit....
I went to college in Boston in the mid-late 1980s. I was at the Museum of Art when I overheard a security guard gloating about the Iran Contra scandal the day it broke ("Got something here bigger than Watergate!").
Political Correctness was invasive.
Well hell's bells. Just when I thought I knew all there was to know about Punk Rock up pops the Monks. As I was reading their web site I thought it was a joke/parody, but it appears to be the real deal. A few years before my time, that's prolly how I missed 'em. Thanks for the ping!
Which Monks song did the Fall cover? I don't own any Monks music, but I am aware of them. I do however own quite a few uhhh Fall records/cd's uhhhhh.
Yep, it is.
Xer PING?
3 pings in one day - A new record
Xer Ping
Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social aspects that directly effects Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.
Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details.
http://www.visi.com/fall/discog/covers.html
Black Monk Theme Part I
The Fall version: 1990 Extricate album track.
Black Monk Theme Part II
The Fall version: 1990 single B-side.
I have never (knowingly)heard the Fall but it looks like from some of the songs that they've covered that I should.
As you can tell from my soapbox on this thread, I am resistant to some late 70s/early 80s punk from the outset. I listen to some punk bands from those years but I know that there is a whole lot of anarcho-political hardcore junk that I don't want to touch.
If punk was so liberal in the early days why did so many New York punks use Nazi imagery (wearing iron crosses and even swastikas) without being nazis, antisemites, or fascists?
Cartoonist Peter Bagge has said that Art Spiegelman was disappointed in him when he worked with John Holstrom (on Comical Funnies among other publications). John was the lead cartoonist at Punk and he also illustrated a number of Ramones album covers and liner notes.
Art's take was that John was too quick to use shocking imagery (like swastikas) without comprehending the horror that symbol represented to some people (like Art's parents who were Holocaust survivors).
Our son 'Truth Brigade' is about the strangulation of freedom by PC nazis. You can check out our lyrics at www.thehazmats.net.
im glad my mom pinged this to me. im a 16 year old punk and republican. there are some extreme democrats and bush-bashers in my ap english class. i can't wait til we have our 'end of the year discussion day' monday. i know i can't change em, i've tried w/ others, doesn't work. maybe i'll impact some though. if anyone has some suggestions for me to use in our discussion, i am open to them.
"punk" has become mainstreamed. it has no true meaning in school hallways anymore. close your eyes and point and you can find a "punk." but keep in mind, not everything is what it seems.
Oh yeah. 80's metal was, and still is, the best. Remember Iron Maiden's "Flash of the Blade", about the joy of combat? Or better yet, their song "The Prisoner", about breaking free of bondage and heaping fear and death on the enemy. (With the intro from the British TV show of the same name, "I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A FREE MAN!" Still gives me goosebumps thinking about it.)
People who are inclined to metal aren't the types to sit around, holding hands, beating a drum, and singing "Cumbaya". Hell no! We want to get out there and bash the skulls of those who would constrain us.
And how about ol' Sammy Hagar, from the song VOA from the album VOA:
You in the Middle East
Keep on your toes
We're about to strike
Everybody knows
Just tell your friends
The USSR
We're gonna crash that party
'Cause they've gone too far!
Gotta love ol' Sammy. I understand he makes some damned fine tequila, too.
LOL I'd like to hear what ol' Billy Milano from the Stormtroopers of Death has to say about the War on Terror, after hearing his old song, "F**k The Middle East".
Ever heard Slayer's song "Dittohead"? Harsh, man. Re-e-e-eal harsh.
Also, I listen to "War Ensemble" and "Bitter Peace" while raining fire and death on my enemies in my war games. LOL Good times.
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