Posted on 05/13/2004 9:32:37 PM PDT by nunya bidness
I watched the most brutal example of human depravity when I watched Nick Berg’s head carved off by a dull knife at the hands of so-called Muslims in the name of a religion of peace during a time of war. September 11th has faded as a surreal memory but this time the reminder of our enemies is personal. This isn’t a long shot of planes hitting a building with Hollywood special effects or dust filled canyons of stone reminiscent of some movie. This is a visceral, gut-wrenching, up close and personal murder in the name of people who want to kill you and me. The images may fade but the sound of Nick’s voice is haunting and will never leave my mind. This is the face of our enemies and it puts perfect perspective to the world today.
It makes me want to kill jihadists. It makes me want to smash the teeth of anyone who pontificates on our shores about an illegal war. It makes me want to do something. I won’t forget what I saw and heard but unless you elected to seek out this video you won’t have any idea what happened. But you’ve probably noticed that some Iraqi prisoners were “mistreated” at the hands of some misfits in a jail in Baghdad. Here’s my answer: I don’t care. I don’t care if men with a better stomach than I have are delegated to do unspeakable things to other human beings to prevent another attack on this country. That’s the ugly side of this mess. And we didn’t start it.
Many people will say that we did by supporting dictators and governments by trying to prop up their cause in an attempt to bring stability but it blew back in our faces. I don’t care. Some will say that we did by exporting excess but I don’t care. Others will say that we were attacked but the bad guys we’re going after aren’t the ones that did this to us. To them I have one response: Tell that to Nick Berg. They’re there and we’re there and we’re not leaving until every one of them that is drawing breath and intending to do the same to one of us is dead. It’s that simple.
All the patchwork moral relativism is a joke when you see the example that the “religion of peace” has provided to us. And if there’s any doubt, the answer is simple: I don’t care. But people will wring their hands and say, “We’re better than that…” We were but that was yesterday. But people will say, “We’re there to change hearts and minds…” Fine. Change the ones that can be changed but otherwise give every one of them the chance to meet their maker they mention every time they cut someone’s head off. It’s evil and it’s time to call it such. When faced with an enemy that is shouting the name of God while cutting a man’s head off while he is screaming there’s something wrong and it ain’t us.
Islam has a choice. Step up and prove by its actions that it is worthy of sharing space with the civilized world or get ready for the next Crusade. The middle ground is getting thinner by the minute. Every day another example of their brutality is exposed while our humanity is squashed. We didn’t export this brutality to their shores it was brought to us. Nick Berg didn’t bring death to them but they brought it to him. Daniel Pearl didn’t bring it to them but they brought it to us.
There are brave men and women over there right now within a whisker of these killers who could be hamstrung by politicians and pundits and I pray that they have the sense to kill any one of these scumbags that cross their sights in anything approaching an aggressive posture. I pray that each one of these soldiers has the insight to know that, if given the chance, they can prevent one of these killers from getting on a plane and coming here. And to anyone who might ask, “What if we’re wrong?” My answer is simple: I don’t care.
My biggest dissappointment is how we have lost the Patton spirit of war. Without the will to do whatever the hell is necessary, we are finished.
At some point we might well be forced to cast off our self-imposed standard and look to our self defense first. There are plenty of Pattons for when that moment arrives.
We need the Patton ethos now, not after more people die like Berg and Pearl.
It is geting close to 30 Jun and then the rules will change. The Iraqi police are working on this latest case, and if this is ever going to end it must be so. They have to police themselves, and it appears they can do so. We could kick the dog of war if we are getting impatient, but this thing will take a generation to go away at best and we might as well settle in for the long haul.
that all sounds fine and good and i agree with every word.
BUT we have let the socialists take over the media and our politicians (of both parties) are nothing but money hungry whores that will hit their knees and blow a mexican burro or arab camel in half a heart beat for a campaign donation.
why is drunk ass ted kennedy still in the senate?? why is robert byrd, who is old enough to remember when rocks were still soft, still in the senate?? why did strom thurmond stay in the senate till he was 100 yrs old?? how did that dike bitch hillary ever get in the senate to begin with??
Yes, we definitely need to go to absolute war with the ragheads, but first we need to give an enema to washington d.c. and flush all that s**t down the drain.
Amen! Bump for later reading.
BUMP....OVER AND OVER! My feelings exactly. What is going on with this world? Are we on FR the only ones who feel this way?
I would prefer the Sherman ethos. I remember the first Osama video that surfaced after 9/11. He was holding court with a bunch of his slobbering worshippers, grinning and expressing his pleasure at how the attacks had exceeded his highest expectations.
Too many Americans fail to recognize the hatred felt toward us by these cowards. Too many Americans fail to realize that there is NO threshold to their animosity. If 3,000 dead in one day was grand in their eyes, 30,000 would have been better still and given the capability they would not stop at 300,000. Given the ability they would kill every last American, man, woman and child. The only things holding them at bay are the noble and courageous members of our armed forces and their own backward technological ineptitude.
And I don't care to see one more picture of an "innocent" Iraqi prisoner with panties on his head while listening to some TV blowhard tell me how offensive it is for Muslims to see that. It's offensive for me to see a young man who went there to help them get his head hacked off like an animal.
Well, 9/11 was rather personal for me -- I was there and I lost friends and neighbors that awful morning. It was also kind of surreal, but intensely personal.
And I don't care to see one more picture of an "innocent" Iraqi prisoner with panties on his head while listening to some TV blowhard tell me how offensive it is for Muslims to see that. It's offensive for me to see a young man who went there to help them get his head hacked off like an animal.
I agree with every word here!
I stand corrected. I and my friend only saw the images on TV. I'm sorry for your loss.
Good tag line!
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I agree, with no reservations whatsoever.
Thanks. We're living in some tough times.
IMO, each troop must have a regulation leash, each squad should carry a dozen panties and digital camera. Each platoon should have 2 cattle prods and KY in a caulk dispenser, and a digital video camera.
Devout Koranazis welcome death in islam's FUBAR delirium.
Their horror is being treated like they treat women, including the preteen girls they want as wives.
It is our duty to film islam's Waslam Reformation or extinction.
Koranaizs want pictures? Give it to them.
I agree. And what is more relativistic than trying to justify terrible behavior by pointing to someone else's completely unrelated behavior? After all, there was no connection between the terrorists from al Qaida who murdered Nick Berg and the Iraqi prisoners.
When you say you don't care that men were injured, raped, sexually assaulted, forced to masturbate, forced to get naked, women were forced to reveal themselves--and you don't want to have a moral responsibility to care about this?
Al Qaida tried to excuse its murder of Berg by claiming it was in retribution for the prison abuse scandal. You want to absolve the criminals of their responsibility for the prison abuse scandal because of what al-Qaida did. You're making the same moral calculations as they are.
Excellent post. Did you ever see "The Battle of the Buldge"? Charles Bronson had a line which, paraphrased, went "I think we should just do it. Bomb every city, every town, every building. Kill everything. Just wipe the slate clean. Ship over a couple of buffalo and let them start from scratch". That's what we should do. Stop pussy-footing around with these vermin. Wipe the slate clean and get it over with. If they want to meet all those virgins, let the US military arrange the meeting. That's what I think.
We're taking responsibility for those alleged offenses but what I'm saying is they don't come close to the offense of Nick Berg's murder. Right now there's people over there preparing to do and doing bad things to Americans with no concern for retaliation. They're playing the American media for their cause. And what I want them to know is that as far as I'm concerned, I don't care what happens to them.
Every day we're deprived of our humanity by these actions of the so called religion of peace but they're somehow above it. Fine. They can face a day like Nick Berg had and get back to me.
I know that our men and women will never do the them what was done to him but if they think that we're going to allow our enterprise to be hamstrung by DC committees and PC groupthink they're wrong. Somewhere between the "innocent" prisoners and the real bad guys our forces will have to make a choice and in that respect I hope they decide to get information that will end the lives of the terrs and save the lives of the innocent.
Judges, pundits, politicians, and lawyers only get in the way. I trust our grunts to make the right choice.
It's coming down to something like that --- we'll follow Abraham/Moses/Jesus or the murdering pedophile rapist.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
THANKS!
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