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Muslim Mobs, Seeking Vengeance, Attack Christians in Nigeria
nytimes.com ^ | May 13, 2004 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 05/12/2004 11:05:51 PM PDT by Destro

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To: spetznaz
I agree.

I also say that American muslims who insist that "theirs" is a peaceful religion need to be more pro-active (because it is their religion being radicalized). Islam must undergo a reformation movement if it is to survive (otherwise it must be completely eradicated as a dangerous blood cult).

Total elimination of Islamofascists/Islamonazis is not necessary. Aryan Nazis and Shinto Japanese pledged to fight to the last man (and sought global domination). It did not take killing them to the last man (in fact the Japanese emperor remained emperor). We can safely travel to Germany and Japan these days.

More nations need to wake up to the problems that they have ignored. More muslims need to close down the mosques that train/indoctrinate radical terrorists with videos (England has plenty of such mosques and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that mosques are where the American muslim terrorists get inspired as well). Some mosques even have weapons caches (in the religion of peace?).

Religious freedom MUST come to muslim nations. Freedom to openly practice any religion. Freedom to freely convert to any religion. Equal protection under the law; no distinctions between muslims and Christians/Jews and "others"/infidels.

The US government DOES have the ability to grant status identifying just what is a "religion". Consider how Dianetics/Church of Scientology got their tax exemption under President Clinton. Germany prohibits Scientology altogether (I believe this is still the case).

The government that can "grant" you religious status can also take it away. This is why the Constitution protects freedom of religion; to keep the government out of it.

I question tolerating the free exercise of Islam in America since muslim nations do not permit the free exercise of other faiths (Christianity, Jewish, Hindu, Buddism...). If this is "pure Islam" it signals what could happen to American freedoms.

In the absence of a reformation movement, it is almost certain (if not now, 20 years, 50 years, 100 years,...).

This war (WWIV) is not being fought because George W. Bush took action to enforce the negotiated resolutions from the 1991 Iraq war. There were major homeland strikes at least as early as 1993's WTC bombing and even more attacks against US interests as well as individuals.

Are mob rapes of non-muslims in Holland, Australia, etc. a result of US policy regarding Israel? Absolutely not.

21 posted on 05/13/2004 2:44:52 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: spetznaz
Don't Ever Forget - Remember The Blood Of Heroes
22 posted on 05/13/2004 2:49:03 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee
I also say that American muslims who insist that "theirs" is a peaceful religion need to be more pro-active

Only two kinds of people insist that Islam is a peaceful religion:
1) Those who have never read Qur'an and Hadith. And even most Muslims fall in this category. They are the "cafeteria" Muslims. But just because they haven't read the juicy bits against Christians and Jews or choose to ignore them does not mean that murder is not part of Islam. Islam is what the books say it is.
2) Liars.

When you hear "jihad" defined as "struggle", remember, "Mein Kampf" translates "My Struggle".
23 posted on 05/13/2004 3:38:15 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I have no misconceptions of what jihad is. Even now and then you will find a muslim site like "Ask The Imam" come clean and say that "true jihad" is a holy war.

I think one place this came up was in a discussion if sex slaves were still permissible. The Imam said yes, it was defined by the law of Islam and there have been no changes to that law. The Imam then went on to say that "slavery is out of vogue" and that slaves must be obtained under special conditions (seized in jihad) and arbitrated out by a military leader.

There was even an explanation of how slavery was more compasionate than letting these women be free to fend for themselves (where they might turn to prostitution anyway). The Imam also added that the sexual loving that a slave master showed his slaves showed he loved them.

They defend the indefensible.
24 posted on 05/13/2004 3:45:24 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Destro
On Tuesday, Kano's most influential cleric started the Muslim protest at the town's main mosque, telling protesters that the Yelwa killings were part of a Western conspiracy against followers of Islam.

The framework for a global holy war is being formented right before our eyes. Hang on.

25 posted on 05/13/2004 4:00:27 AM PDT by germanicus
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To: weegee
Religious freedom MUST come to muslim nations. Freedom to openly practice any religion. Freedom to freely convert to any religion. Equal protection under the law; no distinctions between muslims and Christians/Jews and "others"/infidels.

These things are expressly forbidden in the Qur'an. Islam is not a religion of personal belief and proselytization only. The Qur'an requires enforcement of Islamic law wherever possible. Muslims who do no enforce Islamic law are apostates and subject to execution. In other words, the only way for a Muslim to respect others is to become a non-Muslim, even if he still thinks of himself as one. And there will be "true" Muslims willing to die for what the Qur'an commands as long as the vile ideology cum religion exists. I can furnish as many verses and Hadith as you like, but I'll give you one:

Qur'an
[9.29] "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
[9.30] "And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
26 posted on 05/13/2004 4:00:52 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Patriot62
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Patriot62,


It's simple: Moslems and Palestinians are the Gutter-Dogs of Hummanity.


Moslems and Palestinians breed like sub-human vermin, then sacrifice their own children to become "Human Bombs", killing others' Children in the process.


Moslems and Palestinians are typical of the Arab mental squalor that's condemned entire sub-continents to vast cesspools of poverty, disease, and brutal ignorance.


Moslem and Palestinian Women are worthy of the Enslavement in which they and their Babies suffer eternal damnation, at the hands of Pseudo-Men whose Barbarism is only exceeded by their Pathetic Depravity towards the Moslem Boys playing at the local Mosque.


Moslem and Palestinian Women could have rebelled against their Depraved Male Slave-Masters decades ago, as did their Asian and Western European sisters. But the Arab's racial cowardice (genetically inbred over the centuries) condemns Arab Men and Children to flee from genuine Honor just as disease flees from Penecilum.


Why does the entire Civilized World turn away in disgust at Moslems and Palestinians ?


Because even the monstrously evil Bolshevicks and Nazis had the courage to fight their enemies as Men, face-to-face, eyeball-to-eyeball.


Because even the deranged Japanese Kamakaze Pilots of World War II mustered the honor of a suicide-death in the face of Open Battle.


Accordingly, even fifty (50) years after World War II, American, Japanese, British, German and Russian soldiers will even toast together the mutal memory of their fallen comrades, because all were imbued with the Singular Honor of Men who Sacrificed Their Lives (on the field of battle) for their respective nations.


Moslems and Palestinians ? They cannot even comprehend such Honor.


It's as foreign to Moslems and Palestinians as America's Bill of Rights and the God-Ordained Right of Women to enjoy the blessings of life and family, without living as Dowery Slaves in the Shadow of Fear of being Burned at the Stake to satify the Satanic Monsters lurking in the Soul of every Islamic man.


Have I made my Point ?


Patton@Bastogne

Free Republic member since 1998.


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27 posted on 05/13/2004 4:05:55 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (John "Heinz" Kerry won't be the Nov-2004 Democratic Presidential Nominee)
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To: Destro
Let the fun begin. The front lines are wherever the Christian and Muslim worlds intersect especially India and Indonesia.

We'll eventually see nuclear war in those parts of the world.


BUMP

28 posted on 05/13/2004 4:14:37 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Like I say, reformation or eradication. Their religion is not compatible with the rest of the world. Learn to get along (at home and abroad) or die.

This is a civilized world and we must all learn to co-exist. Radical (true?) Islam cannot co-exist, it seeks to obliterate/enslave all else.

29 posted on 05/13/2004 4:27:17 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
It is for this reason that I am of the mind that Mohammed could be "the AntiChrist". He certainly is an antiChrist.

He leads the followers away from Jesus and is a pretender to the throne. Mad Man Mo may not have claimed to be God but he dethroned Jesus and called himself "the last prophet" (meaning that no one can come and refute his words).

If Mohammed was just another prophet, why do muslims so honor his name and likeness (it is blasphemy to actually portray Mohammed)? Do other prophets get this reverence?

30 posted on 05/13/2004 4:31:07 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Terridan
The Nigerians said that Muslims first come to a country and act okay -- pretend to fit in until they reach a certain number --- then watch out. Nigeria is just a couple steps ahead of us.
31 posted on 05/13/2004 6:07:01 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: spetznaz
The root cause is Islamic Radicalism

That's better

32 posted on 05/13/2004 6:11:20 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: weegee
Mohammed (Piss be upon him) is burning in hell.
33 posted on 05/13/2004 6:12:52 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Destro; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
A "Sharia" ping. This is the next battleground folks.
34 posted on 05/13/2004 6:20:04 AM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Destro
The cycle of violence is over religion ...

"Lord, what fools these mortals be." -- Shakespeare

35 posted on 05/13/2004 6:56:12 AM PDT by Stagerite
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To: ambrose
Clinton was pushed by Albright, the Euros, Biden, and neocon intellectuals infatuated with McVain. The Balkans are a disaster...
36 posted on 05/13/2004 9:26:07 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: Destro
Religion of Peace CULT of Death ping...
37 posted on 05/13/2004 9:32:55 AM PDT by Skywarner (Enjoying freedom? Thank a Veteran!)
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To: Terridan
"In 1977, a Nigerian team mate told me the same thing. The Muslims were infliltrating countries world wide for the ultimate Jihad. I had no idea that we, the USA, would be facing them head on today. Truely, world war three."

This is going to hit the fan very, very soon. A lot of innocent people will unfortunately suffer, but the alternative is unacceptable. I am in my 50s, and we WILL see a global war in my lifetime between the mohammedans and the West. It is a given. We will see fighting right here in our own towns, but the mohammedans will be defeated, because if they are not, the unthinkable will be our fate.
38 posted on 05/13/2004 10:48:13 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: germanicus
"The framework for a global holy war is being formented right before our eyes. Hang on."

That's a fact.
39 posted on 05/13/2004 10:53:07 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: weegee
Actually, yes. You just don't hear much about Jesus (Isa) from Muslims.

But when you do, you get the version from the Qur'an, i.e. Jesus denied ever saying anything about being the Son of God [5:116], the Crucifixion was faked [4:157], God took Jesus alive to Heaven [4:158], Jesus died some time later [5:117], Jesus will be brought back in the Last Day to condemn the stupid Christians for worshiping Him instead of Allah alone [4:159,171-173].

Worshiping the same God?
40 posted on 05/13/2004 11:00:46 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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