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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter | 5-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.

I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.

Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read

Doug,

Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.

It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?

I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.

--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)

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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.

Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names

Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.

Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?

I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.


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To: narby
It's nothing new. Wait until bad something happens, and immediately point at your opposition and blame them. The truth doesn't matter. The bastard RATS are great at this.
61 posted on 05/12/2004 4:57:48 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: onyx
Oh my.
The big bad laywer remains anonymous with a hot-mail addy!

LOL!

AINT THAT THE TRUTH


Wheres Johnnie and Jesse?
62 posted on 05/12/2004 4:57:58 PM PDT by alisasny (John Kerry is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: lowbridge; doug from upland
Their brain isn't getting it's fair share.

Given the idiocy of their leftist tripe, a single molecule of oxygen is more than their 'fair' share.

Doug, I wouldn't waste my time or breath on these idiots. If the Salon reporter wants to destroy his credibiilty even among the tinfoil hat crowd by pusuing that line of thinking he can do it without our help.

On a seperate note, you could tell this salon propagandist you have a different story for him. Tell him you discovered a mystical rain dance that actually works, and he can try it himself. All he has to do is piss straight up into the air.

63 posted on 05/12/2004 4:57:59 PM PDT by blanknoone (How many flips would a flip-flop flop if a flip-flop could flop flips?)
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To: doug from upland
Well, it seems that revisionist history and information retrieval is alive and well in the files of the internet.

Seriously, you have the information archived and documented. ANSWER seems to have modified their page to remove certain names.

Sounds like the person from salon.com should be asking the worker's social party about revising their public information.

64 posted on 05/12/2004 4:58:22 PM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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To: doug from upland
don't know a thing about all your posts, but there are a heck of a lot of Berg families in Philadelphia. Heck, I bet there are a couple dozen Berg families in West Chester PA.

So how could someone know that two people with the name Berg were related, let alone blame us for having him arrested?

Unless an FBI did a background check on people going to Iraq. You see, then they would identify family members for security lapses.

I worked overseas, so probably have a security check in my background somewhere...but if they found my name on a website as a security check, good luck in finding my family in Philadelphia, since my common family name has two pages in the phone book....including three fellow student in my graduating class and my history teacher all had the same last name...
65 posted on 05/12/2004 4:58:26 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: alisasny
His father supports those who undermine those running the war. It is aiding our enemies. Our enemies killed his son. Simple enough for you?
66 posted on 05/12/2004 4:58:31 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: doug from upland
It is simple really, they are out of their minds.
67 posted on 05/12/2004 4:58:37 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red,white and blue)
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To: doug from upland
And so the spin begins, FreeRepublic beheaded Nick Berg, not Al Queda. Unfreakin'believable; the left should be ashamed of themselves.
68 posted on 05/12/2004 4:58:46 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Izzy Dunne
Yeah I believe you.

But how about this scenerio....

Michael Berg is an old commie-pinko hippie.
Dad tries to indoctrinate son as to the benefits of Communism, but son ain't buyin' it.
Dad gladly & PUBLICLY adds his name to anti-american commie groups 'Call To Action'.
Son is sick of his father's anti-american stance & rebels.
Son goes to Iraq just to po commie-pinko dad.
Son is in the wrong pace at the wrong time and gets killed by sub-human savages.

Ergo -- IT'S HIS FATHERS FAULT!

69 posted on 05/12/2004 4:59:17 PM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: doug from upland
This is a bloddy joke right?? They can't actually think this right?

Sheesh.
70 posted on 05/12/2004 4:59:34 PM PDT by highlandbreeze (....that others may live.)
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To: doug from upland
It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

This statement definately shows why it is a must to be able to post the full page article that we're commenting on. Any of our statements can come back on us as liable when site operators can change an article to their particular pleasing.

71 posted on 05/12/2004 4:59:48 PM PDT by swheats
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To: doug from upland; Jim Robinson
Oh my Lord. My friend and I were just discussing biased media, and their tactics for smothering the truth. Now you post this. Salon is history, but you can bet every leftist, communistic, fascist, anti-American website will pick this up.

It's begining. Pardon my tinfoil, please...
72 posted on 05/12/2004 5:00:09 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
They're trying to divert the real cause of Nick Berg's death. Overzealous reporting of the so-called abuses of the prisoners. The know his death is their fault, must shift the blame elsewhere......
73 posted on 05/12/2004 5:00:58 PM PDT by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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To: monkeywrench
Listen I get the simple.

When and if Mr. Berg has further comment I hope and pray he blames the terrorists that cut his sons head off.

If Sr. Berg believes his son died in vain then he better be looking out for his grandkids that this war ends before they become fighting age.
74 posted on 05/12/2004 5:01:32 PM PDT by alisasny (John Kerry is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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To: doug from upland
The FBI warned Berg shortly before his disappearance that Iraq was too volatile a place for unprotected American civilians but he turned down a State Department offer to fly him home, U.S. officials said Wednesday. - Fox News

Most likely the father is speaking out of his grief, but the son was advised to leave and offered a free ticket out. It's specious to then blame the US government for his later kidnapping (while traveling without guard) and brutal execution.

75 posted on 05/12/2004 5:01:42 PM PDT by highlander_UW (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. - Robert Frost)
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To: doug from upland
That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Can they show any connection to support this conjecture, besides their fervent hope?

76 posted on 05/12/2004 5:01:45 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: doug from upland
Just like a liberal to turn the table around a place the blame on their opponents.
77 posted on 05/12/2004 5:02:01 PM PDT by hope (How far will your passion take you?)
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To: doug from upland
What they are angry about is that ANSWER is getting publicity!

So they write a story about it? LOL!

The more the public knows about these commies, the better.

Perhaps we can talk about them, their goals and their supporters like Heinz Kerry!

Perhaps...............

LOL! ROFLMAO! Enemies list! geez, that would take over 100 pages!

78 posted on 05/12/2004 5:02:50 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Did they go back in time too?
79 posted on 05/12/2004 5:03:45 PM PDT by highlandbreeze (....that others may live.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Your "Standby Ackmed" line...had me blow beer thru my nose...now stop that!
80 posted on 05/12/2004 5:03:54 PM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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