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Cleric: Americans fighting Islam not terrorism (Muqtada al-Sadr)
AP ^ | 5.12.04

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:09 PM PDT by ambrose

News Page Updated: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:37 PM PDT

Cleric: Americans fighting Islam not terrorism

By Qassid Jabar, Associated Press Writer

KARBALA, Iraq - U.S. soldiers backed by tanks and helicopters battled fighters loyal to a radical cleric near a mosque in this holy city today, hours after Iraqi leaders agreed on a proposal that would end his standoff with the U.S.-led forces. As many as 25 insurgents were killed, the coalition said.

The cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr, urged fighters in Karbala to resist U.S. troops, comparing their struggle to the Vietnam War.

Half of the Mukhaiyam mosque, which had served as a base for al-Sadr's followers, was destroyed and seven hotels were ablaze after tanks opened fire and jets bombed the area. Most of the shops in Tal al-Zeinabiya, a central market, and three ambulances and two military vehicles also were destroyed.

American troops and al-Sadr's followers also fought overnight on the outskirts of the southern holy cities of Kufa and Najaf, and residents heard large explosions. One Iraqi was killed and four were wounded in Kufa, and four Iraqis were wounded in Najaf, hospital officials said.

"I appeal to the fighters and mujahedeen in Karbala to stand together so as none of our holy sites and cities are defiled," al-Sadr said, speaking at a shrine in Najaf, where he is holed up. "We are prepared for any American escalation and we expect one."

Asked how long his forces can fight, al-Sadr said: "Let remind you of Vietnam. We are an Iraqi people that has faith in God, and his prophet and his family. The means of victory that are available to us are much more than what the Vietnamese had. And, God willing, we shall be victorious."

It was the first time al-Sadr had appeared before reporters since his militia, Al-Mahdi Army, launched attacks on coalition troops in Baghdad and several other cities in early April. He said American forces were fighting Islam, and not terrorism in Iraq, and he referred to the abuse of Iraqi detainees by U.S. troops at Saddam Hussein's notorious Abu Ghraib prison.

"Look at what they have done. Look what the torture they have committed against our detainees. Could anyone who came to rid us of Saddam do this?" al-Sadr said in what was described as an open letter to the American people.

The new U.S.-appointed governor of Najaf, Adnan al-Zurufi, said today he believed his American backers will give another week to efforts to find a peaceful end to the standoff in Najaf before resolving it by force.

"If you assess U.S. military movements in terms of territorial gains, then U.S. forces a week from now will enter certain areas of the city that will in turn make the prospect of a peaceful settlement very weak," al-Zurufi said.

In other developments, U.S. soldiers raided houses Tuesday night in Sadr City, a Baghdad neighborhood where support for the cleric is strong, witnesses said. Three Iraqis were killed. At a funeral today for one of the men, mourners raised Iraqi flags and al-Sadr posters as they chanted: "Down, down USA!"

In the Karbala battles, American forces killed 20-25 militants, while seven coalition soldiers were wounded, a coalition official said on condition of anonymity.

A witness counted the bodies of 14 Iraqis lying in a main road in Karbala, and said U.S. snipers were targeting anyone who moved in the mostly empty streets.

Witnesses said American soldiers first tried to enter the Mukhaiyam mosque, but then traded fire with al-Sadr followers who had moved to the buildings around it. The mosque is less than a mile from one of the holiest Shiite sites in the world, the Imam Hussein shrine.

Polish Lt. Col. Robert Styrzelecki said by telephone from Camp Babylon, the Polish base on the outskirts of Karbala, that coalition forces found "huge amounts of mortar and artillery rounds, explosives and remote transmitters for detonating explosives." He did not say where the cache was found.

On Tuesday, Iraqi political and tribal leaders in Najaf said al-Sadr will end the standoff with American troops if the coalition postpones its legal case against him and establishes an Iraqi force to patrol the city.

However, the offer hinges on an agreement that U.S. forces pull out of the city and Kufa, and al-Sadr's militia lays down its weapons, the leaders said. Al-Sadr made a similar offer earlier this month.

On Wednesday, a senior coalition official said the coalition won't negotiate with al-Sadr over its demands that he face justice, and that his militia be withdrawn from all government buildings and disbanded. However, the official said on condition of anonymity that the coalition would welcome efforts by "individuals" to help fulfill its demands.

Al-Zurufi, the new Najaf governor, said he will ask the U.S.-led administration to defer murder charges against al-Sadr until after the Americans transfer power to an Iraqi administration June 30. However, the militias will have to disband and disarm, and police will take over security of the province, al-Zurufi said.

Al-Sadr has been holed up in Najaf since last month after U.S. authorities announced an arrest warrant against him in the April 2003 assassination of a moderate rival cleric.

Mansour al-Assadi, a senior tribal leader, said a proposed deal would require all armed groups to withdraw from Najaf to defuse rising tensions among rival Iraqi groups.

In exchange, murder charges against al-Sadr would be postponed until a permanent constitution is adopted next year, and he would be tried by an Islamic court.

The Iraqi government due to take office June 30 will not be elected but appointed after consultations with U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi, who is in Baghdad for meetings with Iraqi and American officials. Elections are expected by January.

Also Wednesday, gunmen fired on a car carrying Iraqi security forces north of Baghdad, killing one man and seriously wounding his brother, Iraqi authorities said. Two other members of the U.S.-backed Iraqi Civil Defense were hurt in the attack near the city of Baqouba.

In Samarra, also north of Baghdad, about 20 gunmen raided a police station Tuesday night, and the seven police inside fled. The attackers then detonated a bomb that destroyed the building and two police cars.

Baqouba and Samarra are largely Sunni Muslim towns that formed a core of support for Saddam Hussein's former regime.

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AP correspondent Hamza Hendawi contributed to this report from Najaf.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alsadr; army; heroes; iraq; shiite; soldiers; unitedstatesarmy
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To: ambrose
This is called- the end is near and let's pull everything ouyt of our butts possible to try and save our asses.
21 posted on 05/12/2004 6:15:25 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: Bernard
Seriously, can anybody name a city in islam that is not a holy city? Why is that? Because the cities have plumbing?

No, I think it's a mistake in translation. It should be holey cities, not holy, as in "full of holes". Since they can't stop blowing themselves, cars, buildings, etc up, then yes, all the cities are holey.

22 posted on 05/12/2004 6:21:09 PM PDT by usapatriot28
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To: HardStarboard
Are we out of our minds? I wouldn't trust one of those bastards for one second unless he was bound hand and foot and two of my buddies had their M-16's trained on him!

Agree--the point is that Sadr is backpedaling--the Army has day after day been killing his followers, closing down his mosques, and hemming him in. Don't know if his offer is real, a negotiating stance, or just a play for time--but the point is--we are winning!

23 posted on 05/12/2004 6:21:19 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: ambrose
Fighting Islam,terrorism-same thing.
24 posted on 05/12/2004 6:51:36 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: mark502inf
Trust Bush, and Rummy, and Clark, and on down.

They know what they are doing, and who they are dealing with.

No liberal knashing of teeth will stop the show. Come hell or high water, the enemies of America WILL be defeated.

They knew this will drive certain cowards nuts, going in, but will just keep on keepin on.

They are doing what needs to be done. No finger to the wind.

God bless them all.
25 posted on 05/12/2004 7:17:38 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: MonroeDNA
"Come hell or high water, the enemies of America WILL be defeated."

How are we gonna do that, negotiate our enemies to death? Paint them into school walls so they can never get free again? The only way we're going to defeat our enemies is to first recognize that yes, we are at war with Islam, because Islam declared war on us, and that the only way to defeat barbarians is to become bigger, badder, smellier and more brutal barbarians ourselves. Daisy Cutters, MOABs, nukes? You bet...fry the SOBs until they sing "God Bless America". Maybe then Bush, Rumsfeld, Clark, et al, will regain my trust. 'Til then, they're an assortment of pathetic wimps.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

26 posted on 05/12/2004 7:33:57 PM PDT by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: wku man
Do yourself a favor.
"I Ask That the American People Be Brave"
Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog 5/12/04 Amy Ridenour
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134095/posts

You might learn something.


27 posted on 05/12/2004 10:30:40 PM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: Valin
I learned nothing I didn't already know. Our soldiers and Marines are doing a fine job, and would do an even better job if their bumbling, cowardly leaders in DC would take the chains off them and let them do their freakin' job. This is a war, not a spelling bee. The way to win a war is to pound your enemy into submission, make him live in fear of your very shadow, then turn the Civil Affairs REMF units loose to paint school walls. Our wimpy, girly-man "leaders" need to read Sun-Tsu or Machiavelli, or better yet, watch "Patton" a time or six.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

28 posted on 05/13/2004 5:51:35 AM PDT by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: ambrose
"I appeal to the fighters and mujahedeen in Karbala to stand together so as none of our holy sites and cities are defiled," al-Sadr said, speaking at a shrine in Najaf, where he is holed up."


It seems to me it's quite appropriate to be "holed up" in a "holy city." ;)
29 posted on 05/13/2004 5:54:08 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Burkeman1
Sadr is a dentally-challenged coward.
30 posted on 05/13/2004 6:22:02 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: HardStarboard
"This pussy footing around is beginning to sound a bit like how we failed to win decisively in Nam. Hate to say it.....but we're looking indecisive."

That's a fact. And I remember Vietnam only too well. We were not allowed to fight to win in Vietnam, and I'm afraid we may very well be falling into the same mindset in Iraq. Pulling out of Fallujah and allowing the Slimes to declare a victory was straight out of the Vietnam playbook.
31 posted on 05/13/2004 6:25:18 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: mark502inf
"Don't know if his offer is real, a negotiating stance, or just a play for time--but the point is--we are winning!"

Sorry, but we won't win in Karbala unless Sadr is captured or dead. If we allow him to live and continue to function the 'slimes will see that as a 'slime victory, and so will all the other 'slimes around the world.
32 posted on 05/13/2004 6:28:43 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six
Sorry to disagree completely with my fellow FReepers ...but this isnt Nam...enemy is totally dif. and while true this scenerio didnt work in Nam I, based upon experience, believe it will work in Iraq...lets wait and see.
all the best
33 posted on 05/13/2004 6:30:54 AM PDT by rrrod
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