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Nick Berg Death *WORSE* Than Video - Throat Cutting Scene Edited
Nick Berg Video
| May 12, 2004
| UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Posted on 05/12/2004 8:51:08 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
A few seconds after Nick Berg is pushed over and the knife put to his neck the clock skips from 2:44:12 to 2:45:47 during the throat cutting. 1:35 of clumsy hacking and screaming were edited out. Islam requires a sharp knife and quick kill but this was not.
The sound runs 5 to 7 seconds ahead of the video. That is why the yelling starts before anyone moves. The reader audibly clears his throat at 2:42:32 but covers his mouth at 2:42:38.
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq; islam; islamofascist; muslims; nickberg; nickbergvideo; religionofpeace
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To: Paradox
Maybe they used two different tapes with two different timestamps and edited the footage together.
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posted on
05/12/2004 9:35:37 AM PDT
by
abner
(FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
To: MJM59
It took over TWO minutes according to my watch. Sickening..
62
posted on
05/12/2004 9:35:44 AM PDT
by
Paradox
(Occam was probably right.)
To: abner
Thats my guess, two different tapes. Maybe one is on a tripod. That would account for the vastly different times between the clips, and also the different angles and "jitteryness".
63
posted on
05/12/2004 9:36:54 AM PDT
by
Paradox
(Occam was probably right.)
To: Ciexyz
The next time they kill a hostage, we can say, At least it was a humane quick kill. This is what his father said- hopefully he hasn't seen the video because that was long and tortuous enough:
"I knew he was decapitated before," Michael Berg said. "That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public."
64
posted on
05/12/2004 9:36:57 AM PDT
by
piasa
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To: itsamelman
Two cameras? Video spliced together?
To: headsonpikes
Or an electric drill .... as we know many types of attachments can be held by the chuck....
66
posted on
05/12/2004 9:41:41 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
To: abner
Ok, I just noticed this too, it seems that the tripod camera has a clock problem. Twice in the footage I have seen, the second clock goes from :39 to :10, instead of 40, but then it goes up and over 40 find (at least the first time). First time was at 2:40:39, the next time was at 2:44:39. The next second reads as 2:44:10, you can see the still posted in this thread. One second before that still it read 2:44:39. The clock is messed up, or maybe thats how Arabs tell time, and this explains their backwardness..
67
posted on
05/12/2004 9:41:46 AM PDT
by
Paradox
(Occam was probably right.)
To: dennisw
His body was also left near US HQ hanging from a bridge. With the head nearby.A picture of his body lying on the bridge was posted on this website yesterday; in it's place today is an apology to the family for having posted it.
68
posted on
05/12/2004 9:43:12 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
To: Kerretarded
Cut and paste the following line in your web browser's "address" field:
news:alt.binaries.pictures.grotesque
It should bring up the newsreader on your system. Warning: the content on that newsgroup is really bad.
69
posted on
05/12/2004 9:45:34 AM PDT
by
mikegi
To: 1903A3
I am afraid you are right, and I don't think the Americans or westerners are capable, for the most part, of supporting the kind of retaliation this butchery deserves.
Look at it from the perspective of these masqued scum. They slowly butcher this guy, film it, distrinute it, and they get immediate world-wide coverage, they intensify anti-war sentiment at home, and they demoralize other civilians over there.
Conclusion? Nothing succeeds like success and they repeat the demonstration.
The only suitable, rational response is one we are incapable of taking - drawing by lot ten Muslim terrorists, publicly beheading them, and burying the corpses in a pigskin with a warning that we will escalate our payback with each additonal western hostage captured or killed.
Next time - twenty Muslim terrorists feel the knife.
The other thing we should be doing, along with Israel, and every one else who is terrorized by these scum is to retaliate against their families.
If a terrorist or suicide bomber can be identified, and their families located, they should be captured, beheaded, and buried in pigskins. In a tribal society in which allegience to the extended family and tribe is more important than one's own survival, such tactics will reap rewards.
None of this is very pretty and it goes against western sensibilities of fairness and justice. However, it is the ONLY successful way to deal with people who think like these.
But we won't do it. We will continue to try to play the nice guy with a bunch of sub-human scum and in the long run - they will win because of it.
People like the Mongols, the Turks, the Romans successfully dealt with similar situations and the only way we can equally succeed is to emulate their ferocity.
70
posted on
05/12/2004 9:46:29 AM PDT
by
ZULU
To: 1903A3
THIS IS WAR AND THE ONLY RULES IS: WIN IT
Just remember:
During War, There is no such thing as COLLATERAL DAMAGE!
And we ARE at war!!!
Barn Owl
71
posted on
05/12/2004 9:48:09 AM PDT
by
Barn Owl
(He had a photographic memory, but it was never developed.)
To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
The sick a$$holes on DU think this was done by Americans. They actually think Berg was killed by US CIA to cover up the prison crap.
I'm having difficulty deciding if their hatred for America has blinded them or if they are just so god awful stupid that they don't know any better.
To: itsamelman
It could be two different videos from different cameras. Perhaps the timetamps are different, either from low batteries in one camera, bad input from the beginning, or else the cameras used were programmed for different timezones.
The timestamp does look like it was from the same brand of camera, though, so there is of course the possibility that the time is right. Either they edited heavily or just stopped periodly and filmed different things to see what played 'best' in their twisted little point of view.
I doubt it ran continuously. If it ran that long continuously they must have an incredible battery.
They probably didn't want to include anything like what the Italian said before they killed him as it wouldn't play into their plan and so were careful to edit to get just what they wanted.
73
posted on
05/12/2004 9:50:21 AM PDT
by
piasa
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To: CatoRenasci
If we could master this sort of clarity and mobilize a majority of Western civilization if not to engage in it, to at least not oppose it, it would constitute the most important break through in our progress in at least 500 years. It's hard for the liberally educated and propagandized, bourgeoisified products of consumeristic mob ruled degraded late republicanism to grasp this. It seems horrible at first glance and our secularized, pampered minds cannot get comfortable with it. Bush could only mouth the words in his now famous speech, but getting everyone to actually undertake this doctrine has simply not been successful. Even Bush has had to back off substantially from the initial rhetoric. But his initial rhetoric was the truth, deny it though the masses might.
74
posted on
05/12/2004 9:51:13 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I just watched the video for the first time and saw the time changes. Now I wish I'd never watched it. F'ng barbarians the whole lot of them. And yea, I'm supposed to be a lady but.....
God I wish I'd never looked at this...
75
posted on
05/12/2004 9:51:41 AM PDT
by
Brytani
(Politics: n. from Greek; "poli"-many; "tics"-ugly, bloodsucking parasites.)
To: Brytani
God I wish I'd never looked at this... As someone on another thread said: "I wish I could unwatch it".
76
posted on
05/12/2004 9:53:28 AM PDT
by
Born Conservative
(It really sucks when your 15 minutes of fame comes AFTER you're gone...)
To: mikegi
Thanks!
77
posted on
05/12/2004 9:53:55 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(How do you subdue a class of people? Limit their knowledge.)
To: MJM59
Father probably didn't know the details and made some assumptions that no one wanted to set right.
78
posted on
05/12/2004 9:55:41 AM PDT
by
mlmr
(Significant or Trivial)
To: Paradox
Must have been two cameras and edited to one film.
To: ZULU
NOW is the time to (belatedly) benchmark our current and ineffective methodology Vs. what Westerners did to counter this the last time it happened (~ 900 - 1400 AD). For example, what did the Vienna do to those they actually captured (a small number since most were destroyed outright in battle)?
80
posted on
05/12/2004 9:56:09 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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