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Photos of the Berg Beheading: Warning: Graphic
KTAR ^ | 5/11/04 | KTAR

Posted on 05/11/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by abu afak

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To: abu afak
I can't go look at this, but then I don't need to. I know these subhumans need to be wiped off the face of the earth. It is the lying, commie liberals who need to have this horrific murder on the giant screen in front of their faces daily!

The blood is on their hands.
41 posted on 05/11/2004 7:55:51 PM PDT by ladyinred (Kerry has more flip flops than Waikiki Beach)
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To: sweneop
so you are saying we should sink to their level?

If you have a cockroach infestation, you don't negotiate with them. Same applies. We have to do the deed on their level. I have no problem with that. Count the number of 'civilizations' that have been destroyed by 'barbarians.' Some nations become too overly civilized and barbarians have wiped them out.
42 posted on 05/11/2004 7:56:01 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: rdb3
Older Arabic traditions called for the person to be executed to run in the desert. The Arab would approach on horseback with a curved sword which had been placed in a fire to become red hot. The Arab would decapitate the running victim in one blow. The hot blade was intended to catarize the blood vessals at the neck. The body would continue to run for about a 100 yds to a 1/4 mile before falling from being off balance. The severed head would have the conscious person in it, until he lost consciousness from oxygen depletion. Thinking would continue for up to 5 minutes to 15 minutes by some accounts of observation.

The intent of these murderers was clearly criminal and without legitimate authority. Had they sincerely sought justice, they would not have executed the person in a painful fashion, but rather simply with a bullet or any number of other methods.

They lacked righteousness in that the executioner chose a method of execution where he had to quench any conscient resistance of his own soul to such a painful and terror promoting execution. Instead he scarred his own soul moreso and is more prone to similar criminal activity in the future. Not only is he now more dangerous, but any group with him as a member will not be able to responsibly employ him in any responsible capacity. He's good for nothing, perhaps a candidate as a suicide bomber in their books.

Considering the number of torture cells within Baathist Iraq for the past 30 years, I suspect there are many others of similar lacking moral fibre somewhere in that region. IMHO, it's far smarter to mold the situation where those of that ilk remain in that vicinity than migrate away from the consequences they have reaped.
43 posted on 05/11/2004 7:56:36 PM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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To: CatOwner
Oh come on now, do don't believe that the actions of a few incriminates the rest, now do you? The Muslims are a peaceful people. This is just a sick, isolated incident.

saying this represents all of them isnt so far removed from saying that the prison thing represents all of us - but both are wrong.

some of us want to write off all of them because it makes it easier. they are different to us, so its easy to attribute the actions of some to all. THIS IS WHAT THE TERRORISTS WANT. they want you to hate all arabs. they want you to hate all muslims. ITS THEIR VERSION OF 'YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US' for the people they are trying to capture to their movement. every time they take an act like this, we need to realise it isnt a random act committed just because people hate america, its an act committed to further the global split, the polarisation that is occurring all according to the plan. i keep getting accused of sympathising with the muslims or the terrorists here, but im not. I THINK YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE REAL MASTER PLAN HERE. they want to world to split, they want you to hate them, and they want you to hate those people that previously did not support the terrorism, the families and normal people in those countries.

every time you bulk them all in together, every time you look at the acts of some and attribute them to all, they win a victory. they want you to see all muslims as the enemy because then all muslims must be with them, because we become their enemy.

im not saying stop fighting them, im saying recognise that there are more ways to fight, more battles than just guns and bombs.
44 posted on 05/11/2004 7:56:43 PM PDT by sweneop
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To: harta
US should get out of iraq.

Don't think so, freshfish from the future. These colors don't run.


45 posted on 05/11/2004 7:57:53 PM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: Prime Choice
I hope David Hackworth is proud of himself. Same goes for John Kerry and Ted Kennedy...

Traitor Democrats

46 posted on 05/11/2004 7:58:21 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Eva
Are you sure that he was Jewish? I knew several Berg families from that area that were definitely not Jewish.

What's with this Jewish question over and over? He was an American damn it. They'd do you or anyone else that was an American. You could be an American red neck from Hack Saw County Georgia, and they'd do the same GD thing.

47 posted on 05/11/2004 7:59:22 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: abu afak
Absolutely disgusting, what is more disgusting are the long since banned freepers over on a few other sites that are claiming that this was done by either the Mossad, the US, or is faked, They are as bad as these Al Quaida bastards.
48 posted on 05/11/2004 8:00:48 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Sometimes getting some ain't worth having to sit through a Julia Robberts film.)
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To: steveyp
The Sunday New York Times.. Which I stopped Buying and reading 5 years ago..
Devoted 80% of the Fron page above the Fold (4 of 5 columns .. 2 with photos) to the Abu Graib Prison BS.

That Frigging paper should be tried for Aiding The Enemy during Time of War.
49 posted on 05/11/2004 8:01:58 PM PDT by abu afak (http://www.israelforum.com/board/)
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To: abu afak
These devil-worshipping, subhuman Satanists have shown, to history and all the world, what savages they are and just what this "god" is that they worship and serve.
50 posted on 05/11/2004 8:02:49 PM PDT by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and greatgrandparents were all Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: mhking
I've seen thread after thread here at FR echoing the liberal media and the Rats outrageous comments regarding the photos of the naked suspected terrorists, but I have yet to see the same outrage for this cowardly and senseless killing. I guess the media is definitely influential even with the staunchest conservative.
51 posted on 05/11/2004 8:03:04 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The BushAdm has apologized for abuse of suspected terrorists-Has the Arab world apologized for 9/11?)
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To: steveyp
I could care less about the abuses at Abu Graib. I don't like that it reflects poorly on our troops. But I don't mind a few eggs broken.

I do. We must be systematic and totally professional. We should medicate those we interrogate but not abuse nor torture them. Simply medicate them and systematically extract all relevant information. Execute those with blood on their hands after they are of no further use in the War on Terror, not out of malice but for justice. Give them a fair trial and a fast hanging. They are not POWs but rather unlawful combatants.

We must kill them faster than they can kill us.

We must also kill them because it is necessary for the preservation of our lives and liberty. We need to show the world

Overwhelming Force

so that every nation would tremble to harbor terrorists. We have not yet done this.
52 posted on 05/11/2004 8:03:08 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: abu afak
Son of a **tch!

God rest you Nick Berg and bring comfort to your family.

Prairie
53 posted on 05/11/2004 8:03:08 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: Spann_Tillman
Infidel pigs seems to be the greatest insult in their parlance. I would have no qualms about seeing them burn in this life first.
54 posted on 05/11/2004 8:03:38 PM PDT by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: JZoback
I should have said 'why they are allowed to be here'.
Go back to WW2. Would we have allowed Nazi meetings in this country? Seig-Heil parties? Groups preaching Nazi beliefs?

Such a thing wouldn't have been imaginable! But here we have a 'religion' that is calling for our conversion or destruction being allowed in this country???
This is madness!
Imagine someone saying the Nazi's had the 'right' to congregate and preach Nazi-ism in 1943!
What the hell has happened to our thinking??
55 posted on 05/11/2004 8:04:54 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam...it's about Islam.)
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To: harta

56 posted on 05/11/2004 8:05:39 PM PDT by Petronski (Some chose shame, but got war anyway. --Churchill)
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To: harta
Well, those ARE words of sage wisdom and advice. Ever consider studying up on history?

harta since 5-04-2004

Prairie
57 posted on 05/11/2004 8:07:17 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: Prime Choice
Bump!
58 posted on 05/11/2004 8:07:35 PM PDT by Leisler (The Democrats. The nation's oldest organized crime family.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I wouldn't say that. everyone here is outraged. but you are correct, alot of freepers not trying to put those so-called "torture" photos into any context. neither does the white house. they should follow Inhofe's lead.
59 posted on 05/11/2004 8:08:17 PM PDT by oceanview
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