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Photos of the Berg Beheading: Warning: Graphic
KTAR ^ | 5/11/04 | KTAR

Posted on 05/11/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by abu afak

http://www.620ktar.com/simons/beheading.aspx

It should also be known.. Nick Berg was Jewish, tho I believe he was killed Primarily because he was Just an American.

RIP


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anitwesternism; antiamericanism; antisemites; antisemitism; berg; hatecrime; islam; islamofascism; islamofascists; jews; kidnapping; murder; muslims; nick; nickberg; nickbergvideo; pennsylvania; religion; religiousintolerance; whywefight
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To: abu afak
I am straining to hear the outrage coming from the American Muslim community...."you are either with is or against us"... it's time to take names and kick ass....find their enclaves, send in the daisy cutters and let Allah sort it out later....We can NOT fight this war with barbarians by pussyfooting around and apologizing for things our leaders didn't even authorize or condone...Our misguided, and possibly sadistic few soldiers made some of them strip and masturbate....and that is torture....but beheading Pearl and now Berg won't raise a peep out of the liberals, American Muslims, nor the American media...a pox on all their houses.....let's just pray that JF Kerry doesn't get a new address in January, or we will all be called to prayer 5 X/day when the radicals are allowed to take over while Kerry makes America beg the UN for the right to defend itself.....Let's hope the pentagon has a few choice sites lined up for carpet bombing in the next few days !!!
141 posted on 05/11/2004 9:56:44 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: sweneop; CatOwner
There is reason to be skeptical of the rank and file Mohammeden, however:
The Islamic World Remains Silent as Terrorists Claim Divine Sanction


Perhaps it is because of this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133508/posts?page=43#43


142 posted on 05/11/2004 9:59:52 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: Froggie
or we will all be called to prayer 5 X/day

That satanic call can already be heard in at least one Michigan town.

143 posted on 05/11/2004 9:59:52 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf
What's with this Jewish question over and over? He was an American damn it.

The poster started it...one wished he hadn't, as it is totally irrelevant. Unlike with Daniel Pearl, the perps didn't make Berg say "I am a Jew". Clearly they simply wanted to kill an American in revenge for the panty raids and dog barking "atrocities" at the prison.

If we don't start wrapping dead terrorists' bodies in pig entrails, we will never win this war. Until we admit to ourselves that YES this IS a WAR AGAINST ISLAM, we cannot win. We must bar their way to "paradise" with pigs. Rumsfeld should ship over 1,000 pigs immediately for this purpose.

144 posted on 05/11/2004 10:00:18 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: af_vet_1981
We must be systematic and totally professional.

One thing that bothered me about the abuse of the Iraqi prisoners was how stupid and unprofessional it was. You had a few bad apples acting like it was a frat party or something and their immediate superiors evidently didn't know or didn't care what was going on (a WAR is going on). The thought occurred to me that if a prison is being run that sloppily, what else is being mis-managed? I'm sure most of our military people are highly professional but unprofessional behavior and poor management has to be rooted out whenever it is discovered -- one bad person can undermine the work of 1000 good people.

I hate the dogs that murdered Mr. Berg and I hope they will soon be killed or if caputred given some sort of quick but orderly trial and then executed. I hope the hyprocricy of the left's "outrage" over the prisoner abuse and their near indifference over a murder will be evident to everyone. We are not illiterate savages -- we can be orderly and yet decisive and we can follow the Geneva Convention while killing those who need killing.

145 posted on 05/11/2004 10:01:20 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Go back to WW2. Would we have allowed Nazi meetings in this country? Seig-Heil parties? Groups preaching Nazi beliefs?

"CAIR" is the exact equivalent of an American Nazi Association, to use your analogy. If this was 1942, the entire membership would be imprisoned.

146 posted on 05/11/2004 10:02:34 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Froggie
STrain all you want.

You won't here ZIP from America's Fifth Column Muslims..

Tell me..
WHERE WERE THE FRUCK WERE THESE PEOPLE AFTER 9/11?


WHY WAS THERE NO "Muslims for America" Demonstration in Washington DC on the Mall? Showing there support and repudiation of Other Muslim terror and condonement.


Because they don't really care.. They will 'Fertility' us just like they are doing in Frucking France.

Immigration from Muslim countries must Stop Utterly until we can get a handle on this crap.

147 posted on 05/11/2004 10:04:00 PM PDT by abu afak (http://www.israelforum.com/board/)
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To: Polybius
Hackworth always thinks that the U.S. Armed Forces are too weak.

Hackworth has said on numerous occasions that he treasures his "United Nations Medal of Freedom" above any and all American medal he received. This alone should reveal where his true loyalties lie.

148 posted on 05/11/2004 10:06:00 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: FITZ
Believe it or not, they are building a Muslim temple about 3 blocks from my house - in Texas - right across the street from the subdivision I live in ... it may be a miracle if that place is still standing in 6 months given the current state of affairs and the huge number of red-white-and blue red-necks living in these here parts. But, we are a nation of great tolerance and acceptance...and we will go out of our way to make them feel welcome...and accepted in the community...all the while they may well be financing who-knows-what organizations that may have the downfall of America as their goals...while the Courts and the liberal media, and the Congress plays political correctness games and keeps the FBI from infiltrating their ranks for intelligence gathering. Anyone here think we could build a Christian church in Mecca, or any major Arab community and live to tell about it?
149 posted on 05/11/2004 10:07:34 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: harta
US should get out of Iraq. let the Arabs deal with it.

The only way this could happen is if at the same time all Middle Eastern countries were completely cut off from the rest of the world, totally isolated. All people on Visas from Middle East countries would have their visa's revoked, all people from the Middle East that had recently become citizens would have to resubmit to interviews. No Middle East business persons could come to the U.S. and no commerce could take place between the Middle East and the U.S.

After that, we would have to inspect every cargo container coming to the U.S. from every country, and our borders would have to be completely militarized, anyone trying to cross to be shot on site.

We would, of course, have to immediately stop using Middle East oil - likely driving the price of gasoline to over $10.00 per gallon overnight.

Unless you are ready to take this sort of action (or even think it is possible to carry out) your suggestion is totally ridiculous. That is, unless you are also suggesting we merely bury our head in the sand to the threat that would become Iraq.

150 posted on 05/11/2004 10:13:27 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Wilhelm Tell
"The thought occurred to me that if a prison is being run that sloppily"
The general in charge of the prison was a quota filling female general who did not command, nor receive respect from her troops, and therefore was totally ineffective as a military commander....another fine example of Bill Clinton and Les Aspen's political correctness Military concept....now, as for sex between soldiers -- DUH as Homer would say - you put twenty something males and females together - close quarters, stressed from war worries, devil may care attitude - and what do you think is going to happen --- it shouldn't take a bunch of pregnant female sailors to figure out that seamen beget seamen!! But get off it --- it's just about SEX !! Stop me if you've heard that before!
151 posted on 05/11/2004 10:13:46 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: FITZ
I believe Nostradamus is claimed to have said that the Armageddon would begin in the Middle East as a holy war....maybe he was on to something....
152 posted on 05/11/2004 10:17:01 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Froggie
while the Courts and the liberal media, and the Congress plays political correctness games

The left foolishly believes that it can use the Islamofascists to destroy the West and in the vacuum that follows the communists will move in and set up a utopia -- from there the left imagines that the communists will destroy the Islamofascists (while destroying all other religions and competing systems) or else the new communists and the Islamofascists will divide the world between themselves and peacefully coexist. That is the only way I can comprehend why the left is so intolerant of Christianity and yet they go out of their way to rationalize the worst atrocities of the Islamofacists.

153 posted on 05/11/2004 10:19:47 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: gortklattu
Too bad Harry Truman isn't President...
154 posted on 05/11/2004 10:20:00 PM PDT by Penner
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To: Skywalk
no thats not what im saying. im not saying we should do nothing, im saying that some things arent worth it. the prison torture thing. you can try to justify it any way you want but the cost probably well outweighs the benefits. and im not talking about the cost in 'whining liberals' im talking about the actual and real cost as it pertains to our cause.
155 posted on 05/11/2004 10:24:47 PM PDT by sweneop
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To: montag813
I have that mask....seriously.
156 posted on 05/11/2004 10:26:59 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: BJungNan
Tomorrow, Bush should announce he is shelving his plan for space exploration funding and diverting that money into America's search for alternative fuel technology and oil exploration - and immediately open the Alaska (Anwar and others) fields for drilling, citing National Emergency needs...then go to Congress for immediate approval -- the need to be energy independent is paramount to the war on terror - which is financed and supported in large part by the Saudi's....we should use our huge trade markets be the carrot that negotiates for energy resources from Russian oil fields, Venezuelan oil fields and Mexican exploration. You want access to our markets, we want access to your oil and the ability for our companies to work with yours to explore, pump, refine etc - our technology and skill is far superior to any other countries and in short order we could exceed the oil being imported from the Middle East...Friendly Middle East countries would still be allowed to trade with the US, but very stingent criteria which would be verifiable and bilateral would be in place...no more pussyfooting with the Saudi sheiks because we are dependent on their oil...
Have a goal for alternative energy resources by 2015...put America's ingenuity to work - give them the resources - and get out of the way - out scientists may well be a major key to winning the war on terror by helping break this shackle that has us tethered to the house of Saudi!
157 posted on 05/11/2004 10:27:41 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Wilhelm Tell
I disagree with you about a trial. This is war, not crime. A trial would be a victory for them, especially if they are convicted. I don't want to know their names. I don't want to know their life story.

A more appropriate ending would be what I have been hoping for OBL. They should simply 'disappear.' One by one.

"Hey, have you seen Achmed?"
a few days later...

"Uhh, where's Jawal?"
Let them wonder what they had in common.

Thus they would be denied their martyrdom and publicity. They would remain in death as anonymous as they were in life, which is proper. They are nobodies. Let them stay that way.
158 posted on 05/11/2004 10:29:17 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: Froggie
That is pretty much what I expected. One could argue that political correctness led to the relaxed standards and poor accountability and this made the prisoner abuse more likely. Somehow I can't imagine that a tough old-fashioned soldier would force prisoners to engage in humiliating gay sex games. Indeed, because of the nature of the abuse, I'm a little surprised that the left thinks it is a scandal at all -- Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot -- it's all the fault of Bush and Rumsfeld but the politically correct management of the prison didn't have a thing to do with it!
159 posted on 05/11/2004 10:36:00 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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