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LIVE DISCUSSION THREAD..Gen Taguba testifying before Senate committee..C-span 1 and Fox

Posted on 05/11/2004 6:35:08 AM PDT by ken5050

Comments...and your opinion..Which Dem wull say the dumbest thing today?


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqipow; taguba
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To: ken5050

61 posted on 05/11/2004 6:58:53 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: JustPiper
Good. Lt. Gen. Lance Smith there again. He's the only one who testified with Rumsfeld, Myers, and others last week who had seen the photos before.
62 posted on 05/11/2004 6:58:57 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: maryz
Smith: Stands by comments on Friday. Expresses regrets for abuse.

In every case, recommendations have been or are being implemented re policy, procedures, leadership. Investigations ongoing, should give more answers.

63 posted on 05/11/2004 6:59:37 AM PDT by maryz
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To: cyncooper
Taguba up
64 posted on 05/11/2004 6:59:52 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (So Hillary, how DID you know about the descriptions of the abuse before Rumsfeld did? Hmmmmmmmmm??)
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To: ken5050

65 posted on 05/11/2004 7:00:04 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: maryz
Taguba up. Told to speak in the mike

sigh

Directed on 1-24-04 to look into the allegations.
66 posted on 05/11/2004 7:00:30 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Miss Marple
Howard Fineman look-a-like, Stephen Cambone, Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence gives best explanation yet for why Bush said Geneva Convention didn't apply to Al Quada prisoners. Because, he said, the Geneva Convention deals with states and countries, and Al Quada is not a state. Then further explains how same standards of Geneva will apply.

He does good job of explaining the links in the chain of command

Lt Gen Lance Smith, Air Force Central Command Deputy Commander, again apologizes to Iraqi people on behalf of CENTCOM. He says all "fixes" have been implemented already. He says some investigations are still ongoing, most significant is the General Fay investigation into Military Intelligence responsibility at the prison.

67 posted on 05/11/2004 7:00:49 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: ken5050
The guy speaking, the ASrmy sec..is good

Yeah, I remember him from earlier.

Taguba up.

68 posted on 05/11/2004 7:00:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: TomGuy
Still don't understand why the RATS are upset about the photos... perhaps it makes them nostalgic for the Oval Office when BJ was president....
69 posted on 05/11/2004 7:01:12 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: familyofman
General Tagubu Bio
70 posted on 05/11/2004 7:03:45 AM PDT by Republican Red ("I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it,")
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To: mwl1
Taguba says there is a separate investigation ongoing for military intelligence and civilian contractors.
71 posted on 05/11/2004 7:04:03 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: mwl1
Guards gave contraband and weapons to detainees, let at least one escape!
72 posted on 05/11/2004 7:04:03 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (So Hillary, how DID you know about the descriptions of the abuse before Rumsfeld did? Hmmmmmmmmm??)
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To: maryz
Taguba: 24 Jan 2004, he was directed to conduct investigation at Abu Ghraib. Will discuss purpose, findings of investigation.

Inquire into all facts and circumstances around abuse -- allegation of abuse.
Inquire into lapses, allegations re Abu Ghraib.
Investigation training, standards, command policies and command climate.
Specific findings of fact and make recommendations.

Originally not re intelligence. But gathered evidence re MI and contractors. Recommended separate investigation re possible interrogation practices. His own investigation limited to MP personnel.

Assembled team. Told them to maintain objectivity. Maintain Army values in all dealings; be thorough and fair.

Commends professionalism of teammates. Commends courage and selflessness of soldiers who brought it to light.

73 posted on 05/11/2004 7:04:21 AM PDT by maryz
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To: OXENinFLA
Taguba's investigation limited to abuses by MPs.

Someone has already pegged Taguba as a rat. We shouldn't attack this man. He was tasked with investigating abuses, and he did so.

74 posted on 05/11/2004 7:04:52 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: maryz
I know people who've served with MG Fast (MI), and I've read some not-so-favorable press about BG Karpinski (MP).

Karpinski is toast, and Fast is going to suffer for this but I don't think as much. She is coming to be the commander at my Post (Ft. Huachuca), so we'll see.

75 posted on 05/11/2004 7:05:14 AM PDT by HiJinx ("Occupation is too important to be left entirely to the diplomats." wretchard 5-5-04)
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To: Miss Marple
Taguba: Small band engaged in this behavior and thereby harmed reputation of all.
76 posted on 05/11/2004 7:05:17 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: mwl1
"Still don't understand why the RATS are upset about the photos."

If they were really upset they would order them sealed so as to not continue humiliation.
77 posted on 05/11/2004 7:05:52 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: mwl1
Still don't understand why the RATS are upset about the photos... perhaps it makes them nostalgic for the Oval Office when BJ was president....

They are not bothered one iota by these photos. Their only concern is that these photos make good ammo against the administration. They want a trophy head. Once they get one trophy head, they will create other scandalous issues to get more before the November election. The Dems smell blood and want a bloodletting.
78 posted on 05/11/2004 7:06:50 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: YaYa123
Sounds like he is a team player to me. Hope so at least. His Bio reveals nothing. Actually looks like a good career.
79 posted on 05/11/2004 7:07:17 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Republican Red
His bio is impressive.
80 posted on 05/11/2004 7:07:35 AM PDT by Catspaw
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