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To: CyberCowboy777
You are mistaken. National Socialism and fascism in general are to the extreme right of the political spectrum. If you are saying that this spectrum is at best a crude tool, then you are right, but according to all the standards of political science, Hitler was to the right. Don't just change the meaning of terms because they make you uncomfortable, or the terms stop having any meaning whatsoever.

You here accept the Big Lie of the Nazis. The fact is that they were to the Right of the Communists, but to the Left of everyone else. (See The Lies Of Socialism, where we offer a long list of indices of where the Nazis stood on the Left/Right spectrum.) The German Right--as the French Right at the time the spectrum came into usage--were the Monarchists. Why do you think that the Old Kaiser died in exile in the Netherlands, 8 years after Hitler came to power?

There is virtually no significance to the fact that Hitler did not directly nationalize most German industry. The present crop of European Socialists do not nationalize industry either. But Hitler controlled German industry. Hitler redefined the German class structure--and openly announced his goal of a Classless, Casteless Germany. (Of course, as with the ideological cousins in the Kremlin, there were exceptions made for those who were politically correct.)

The parallels between Hitler and FDR were enormous, but FDR never pushed the agenda quite so far. In short, FDR was to the right of Hitler, but he was no Conservative.

For an effort to take the confusion out of the Left/Right spectrum, we offer a table as part of the Conservative Debate Handbook: Political Spectrum.

For those who do not want to take the time to view the linked documents, we would merely suggest that the confusion over whether the right and left are equally totalitarian grows out of a misunderstanding of the differences between the European and American traditions.

Consider this: Within the European groups whose prerogatives the right was ordinarily identified with, there was a great deal of libertarianism--much less control over their personal habits than most of us, even in America, are forced to accept today. The difference between the European Right and the American Right is that we were much more inclusive. We allowed the average man to have the same personal liberty that had been reserved for an Aristocracy in Europe. But the planned economy, the social engineering, etc., which bedevils the modern world, grows out of some of the egalitarian presumptions of the Far Left.

William Flax

80 posted on 05/11/2004 8:57:02 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
I agree. I hope you realize that I was simply quoting the FReepmail.

I don't want it getting around that I am that big of an idiot! LOL!
81 posted on 05/11/2004 5:56:41 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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